New boat - Winter project

[big_sean]

i carnt see it been any problem on a nice flat sea obviously ya wudnt wanna go out otherwise

Coddy

its ok when you go out and its flat then a little breeze gets up oops time to go home and a side one tips you over

My boat you went out on was a 1973 hull but probably one of the best sea designs out

they are still using that hull mould today in other boats


Sean

 

[codseeker]

fair point sean yup atleast get it checked out first

 

[canman]

As regards the flat bottom, I don't think that it is too much of a problem, as the Reiver mk1 boats, 15 & 18ft had flat bottoms, and they are still being used today.

 

[codseeker]

our lass had a flat bottom also too much sitting on her @rse all day deeing nowt i got rid

 

[big_sean]

As regards the flat bottom, I don't think that it is too much of a problem, as the Reiver mk1 boats, 15 & 18ft had flat bottoms, and they are still being used today.

The reiver had a nice flared bow and was made for the sea

All i am saying is does not look very stable and no one actually knows what it is so how can you compare it with a well known brand like a reiver ?

It is so easy to get into trouble at sea and lose ones life

Is it really worth it ?

Sean

 

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Great advice on the RNLI - I had a look on their website and it sounds like they do a great service, and for free! (I would of course make a donation however). I think I may get my other boat checked over too, can't be too careful.

So in the meantime, you mention about the 'nice flared bow' on the Reiver, I will post another picture up taken from the front of my boat as I think this also has a reasonably flared bow, comparible to the 'Norman' boats mentioned in previous posts (incidently, there is a Norman boat which looks quite similiar for sale local on Gumtree right now).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing the fact that this boat was probably more aimed at being a river cruiser than an offshore cruiser, and I appreciate your opinion and safety definitely comes first, but it would be nice to think that I could keep her for use at sea rather than it just being a money-making project. We'll see what the RNLI say, but that will be a while away yet I think. Got a lot of painting to do in the meantime (and alot of sanding before that - previous owner used household gloss on the cabin! ).

Thanks for all your replies, I feel this has been a very useful thread, certainly for me and I will definitely be getting my boat(s) checked by the RNLI.

All the best.

Steve

*final note -out of sheer curiosity regarding flat bottom vs 'V' shape hull- would my other 17ft open top displacement hull boat be considered as 'more stable and seaworthy' than this 20ft flat bottom boat, or does the bigger size, deck space, higher gunnels play a part? Ive been caught out in some pretty horrible seas in my 17ft and she's been fine, alebeit a bit lumpy and slow given the speed restraints on the hull design. Just curious, not really important, but my other boat is the only benchmark I have really.

 

[big_sean]

Any pictures you can post will help

Also check its not bent as the support on the trailer looks very minimal and this can if a boat has sat on it for ages warp the boat and make it look like a banana and this seriously affects the handling


Check your Pm's

Sean

 

[Funkmeister_Smith]

not the greatest of photo's, in fact pretty terrible :red: but its the best I can do whilst at work. Should be up working on the boat again at the weekend so I'll take a few then of the front and back as requested.

Thanks for your help, really appreciated. Just read your PM, will reply soon!

Cheers.

Steve

 

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Oh and re the trailor - yes, it is definitely not a very snug fit shall we say, its not designed for this boat I assume. Fixing the trailor is on the to-do list (i.e. sorting the wheels out, amending it to correctly hold our boat, painting it etc), and we are looking to shift the boat off it soon, definitely when it needs antifouled etc. but sooner rather than later as you say.

Cheers.

Steve

 

[micky adams]

Lucks like a shetlend boat mt

 

[big_sean]

Lucks like a shetlend boat mt

Deffo not a shetland its not gull winged enough at the front

Sean

 

[Falcone]

could be a dawncraft

 

[codseeker]

googled and found this link cud be a F.A.M.E Domino

• View topic - boat identity

 

[Funkmeister_Smith]

good find - it looks alot like a FAME Domino, but bigger (the examples I found are between 15 - 17 foot, mines 20 foot). Thats probably the most similar looking example yet though. Seems like a resonabley popular design though since there are so many similar boats!

Looks very similar to a Dawncraft Dandy also, but the Dawncraft looks to have more of a cathederal hull whereas mines a pretty much flat bottom.

 

[big_sean]

If you lok at the pictures of the fame domino you will see the one of the fromt windows but look down at the hull and you can clearly see a gull wing effect which is far more than this boat

my mate thinks it is a marina 20 but we are having trouuble finding about them

i will keep working and get what i can

but pictures are a must and especially the ones already stated and ones of the transome and outboard well

Sean

 

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Right then, got some more pictures, hope they are of some use. Its a bit cramped in the place Im working on it as its at a farm so surrounded by other objects, but here's what I managed:

Front:





Back:



Bottom:



Transom:



Maybe not the best photos, but I'll have to clear some space before I can take some better ones! :s

We gave the inside of the cabin a third and final lick of blue paint today, looks smashing! Also cut the floor out for inside the cabin and painted that. Hopefully get along tomorrow and give the floor another lick of paint, ready to fit it next time and cut out some wooden covers for the seat holes in the cabin. Coming along quite canny!

 

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Here is a before and after shot, it was pretty manky on the inside of the cabin, clearly been neglected, but after a good old scrape, sand and touch of paint it came up lovely (this was only after the second coat, we put another on today to cover any patchy areas):

Before:




After:







Like new! Ignore the green floor, that was just a thick coating on the hull to clean and seal it all up.

Funny how I hate painting yet when it comes to the boat I could paint it all day!

All the best.

Steve

 

[Kev1n]

I hope I’m stating the obvious but it looks like the sole (cabin floor) has been cut out, exposing the hull. Are you planning on adding stringers and glassing in a new floor? Also, I guess the old one was removed for a reason, possibly to check for a leak or on some boats to access buoyancy foam that had become waterlogged over time. It would be worth checking out other areas if they have sealed chambers or flooring that feels spongy. I’d also check the transom very carefully in case the wood inside is no longer sound.

Good luck with the project, it's looking better aalready with the new paint.

 

[big_sean]

well here goes

I have had someone look at the pictures and he is well involved with boats and this is what was said

River cruiser displacement hull flat bottom would be un stable at sea!

Sorry to disapoint Steve but as we discussed it is about being safe it does look like someone has been doing work on it and given up I just wonder if they gave up after finding out what it actually was


Sean

 

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Hi. Apologies for the delay in replying, been away for a short break with the missus!

Ahh well that is a shame but I figured it would turn out to be more of a river boat, so, that being the case, we have decided to try and get a mooring in the Tyne instead. Still alot of fun to be had and it means I could be alot closer to it so use it more often (in theory!). If we can't get a mooring in the Tyne then we'll just bite the bullet and sell it on as a river cruiser and put the money toward a different, more sea-worthy boat (knowing what to look for now). Appreciate you looking into it for me though so thanks for your advice.

In the meantime, here's a couple of pictures showing how far we have got:

Inside of the cabin, now painted with 3 coats of 2-part International paint, marine ply floor fitted (needs a trim on the edges to tidy it up) and wooden seat covers cut, painted and fitted:



Sink painted, hinged cupboard door fitted and mini stove fixed in (a bargain at £10 from Go Outdoors may I add!) :



Still got plenty to do before even thinking about putting her into water, but enjoying the project so far.

All the best.

Steve