No wonder a cannot sell me reel when all this noncense is getting said.
The problems with the greys reels first occurred when they were first released. All models made now are generally spot on. Mine made in 2011 and is BRAND NEW, I'm only selling it as I bought it and a really have no use for it as a generally stick to Penn reels.
I've also heard a dam few more excellent comments on the greys reels than the okuma. The okuma mag 20 is the worst of the two, but the 30 isnt to bad, apart from it being bulky and slightly heavy.