Rays Bream !!

[topbanana]

belting fish that mate

 

[Bushwhacker]

Bit of a similarity with this one I got

Nice Piranha,bit dry though.....

 

[swally76]

There's tons of marks on your doorstep Baz, but being new to the sea means you've got to find out the marks name, location and then which conditions are best to producing fish at that particular mark. Knowing this info is paramount to catching something decent and is why the majority of sea angler's keep a diary of the fishing trips and conditions, so they can then refer back to this valuable information as not all of it can be remembered. I'm sure sooner or later we'll meet up on the beach and I can give you a few pointers of the marks around Cresswell, Private Beach, Bog Hall and Lyne burn. Then again I could do with a few pointers myself as I'm not catching to many right now!

When you out roy, Me and marsy are fishing boghall the morn night.
Giz a ring,

Swally

 

[jonesey]

have a look at my album,got a pic of 1 on marsden beach,washed up,i mean i caught it,haha,this is the 1st time ive heard of them feeding or gettin caught,ive seen loads of these fish washed up at marsden/camelsy,they were getting washed up on irish coast at first in 09/10

Sea angler list them in their mission specimen competition, with one of 3ib or more. Can't see why they would include them if they weren't known to take a bait.

 

[peter.m]

If I can remember rightly, that was a megger hot year. Must have had something to do with it eh.

It was freezing last year and they were beaching all over. Nearly s**t myself when one started splashing around at my feet on Blyth beach.

 

[g.ordon]

Yeh, I read a report in one of them mags of a one getting caught fair an square down lincolnshire way this year. Caught by an official of the club it said, chairman I think.

 

[lobsterman]

Sea angler list them in their mission specimen competition, with one of 3ib or more. Can't see why they would include them if they weren't known to take a bait.

because noddys write in to sea angler saying they caught them in the mouth on spinners or bait etc. thus why they have opened a acount on them. they do not feed in our waters. thus why club matchers or any open match will not alow rays bream to be weighed in at all. because they reguarly wash up on the beaches through the winter months.

jackpot theres a rays bream of 5lb at me feet, bang a 6.0 viking through its lip and say looka this ive just pulled in. noddys.

 

[codseeker]

spot on mate i wud have to see it to believe it ive never seen one hooked

 

[kayos]

because noddys write in to sea angler saying they caught them in the mouth on spinners or bait etc. thus why they have opened a acount on them. they do not feed in our waters. thus why club matchers or any open match will not alow rays bream to be weighed in at all. because they reguarly wash up on the beaches through the winter months.

jackpot theres a rays bream of 5lb at me feet, bang a 6.0 viking through its lip and say looka this ive just pulled in. noddys.

What dyou mean - "they dont feed in our waters"........How does that work? Why are they in out waters if they dont feed? Doesnt make sense to me. Also how do you know they dont feed?

Just wondering, seems daft to me!?

 

[lobsterman]

What dyou mean - "they dont feed in our waters"........How does that work? Why are they in out waters if they dont feed? Doesnt make sense to me. Also how do you know they dont feed?

Just wondering, seems daft to me!?

because they are on their journey traveling some were. (back to warmer waters i think) and they always end up getting washed up on our beaches through the winter months. usually around this time of year, but it hasnt been cold yet. i dont no whay they do it.

read my first post above on this thread, if a rays bream is caught legitimately on rod and line and an hook in the mouth as if its gone for the bait then i will do kartwheels up and down roker naked. end of story

 

[kayos]

because they are on their journey traveling some were. (back to warmer waters i think) and they always end up getting washed up on our beaches through the winter months. usually around this time of year, but it hasnt been cold yet. i dont no whay they do it.

read my first post above on this thread, if a rays bream is caught legitimately on rod and line and an hook in the mouth as if its gone for the bait then i will do kartwheels up and down roker naked. end of story

Well I have googled it and I can find no mention of it not feeding in these waters. In fact I have found plenty of info to refute your statement, so I don't know where you are getting your information?

Just saying like.

 

[lobsterman]

Well I have googled it and I can find no mention of it not feeding in these waters. In fact I have found plenty of info to refute your statement, so I don't know where you are getting your information?

Just saying like.

i dont have a clue what im on about mate, ive only been a keen sea angler and a comercial fisherman all of my life. im clueless.c noddies

 

[swally76]

Found on gofishing.co.uk

Found on gofishing.co.uk

Ray's Bream fishing




This fairly substantial-sized bream is common all around the coast of Britain and Ireland depending upon the season. In mid-summer they can be found off the coast of Ireland, and by autumn they will have travelled to Scotland.

It can reach lengths of almost 70cm, but typically an adult Ray’s bream will be around the 50cm mark, and around 7lb.

They live in the open sea, in mid-water, at depths of around 80m.



Identifying ray's bream


This is a deep-bodied fish that narrows towards the tail. It has very small scales that are quite smooth.

Colouration is dark green/brown across the back with silver flanks. The pectoral fins are yellow.

The dorsal and anal fins are long and low to the body. The first ray of these fins is the longest.

Its tail is long too and sharply concave.



Ray's bream feeding


Ray’s bream feed on an array of crustaceans and fishes – basically whatever they find in abundance, from sprats and herring to crabs and crustaceans.



Have you caught a ray's bream of 3lb or over? Click HERE to see if you've qualified for a Shimano Mission Accomplished badge and a chance of winning quality tackle and a trip to Norway...

 

[kayos]

i dont have a clue what im on about mate, ive only been a keen sea angler and a comercial fisherman all of my life. im clueless.c noddies

Glad you cleared that up mate.

I thought for a moment you were one of those guys who never listened to other people's opinions.

So pleased you disabused me of that thought!

 

[critchaz]

Nice fish that mate

 

[harry barker]

Well I have googled it and I can find no mention of it not feeding in these waters. In fact I have found plenty of info to refute your statement, so I don't know where you are getting your information?

Just saying like.

This has been talked about for years as to do they feed in our waters.

I'll give you my take on it,I have fished our coastline for more years than I care to remember and Iv'e seen hundreds of these fish washed up dead and also flapping but dieing as well.
normally if you see one there will be a lot of other close by or local to our area.
I have never caught one nor have I ever see one caught by any angler,also all my fishing buddies have also never caught or see one.

I beleive that these fish move down with the gulf stream and somehow go off
track and end up in our cold waters and are caught out by the change in temperature and are in a distressed state...hence they beach themselves and die.
Now if this is the case I would suggest they wouldn't be wanting to feed because they are dieing.

It has been claimed that a British record size Bream was caught many years ago at I think it was near or just north of Hartlepool,but was this fish caught fairly or was it washed up still alive then taken to be weighed.

But like its been said on this post,no club in the Uk will allow these fish to be submitted to the scales because they can be picked fresh and alive off the shore line.

 

[sage]

bream

bream

This has been talked about for years as to do they feed in our waters.


It has been claimed that a British record size Bream was caught many years ago at I think it was near or just north of Hartlepool,but was this fish caught fairly or was it washed up still alive then taken to be weighed.

But like its been said on this post,no club in the Uk will allow these fish to be submitted to the scales because they can be picked fresh and alive off the shore line.

years ago i can remember being in the colliery inn at thornley and the subject turned to fishing... some bloke in there said his mate held the record.. but said he fooled everyone cos he picked it up alive in the surf after casting out !!!..
whether his mate was just jealous or whether it was true ... i dont know... but instinct and experiance makes me think it was it was found in the surf!!
cheers
Paul

 

[Bushwhacker]

This has been talked about for years as to do they feed in our waters.

I'll give you my take on it,I have fished our coastline for more years than I care to remember and Iv'e seen hundreds of these fish washed up dead and also flapping but dieing as well.
normally if you see one there will be a lot of other close by or local to our area.
I have never caught one nor have I ever see one caught by any angler,also all my fishing buddies have also never caught or see one.

I beleive that these fish move down with the gulf stream and somehow go off
track and end up in our cold waters and are caught out by the change in temperature and are in a distressed state...hence they beach themselves and die.
Now if this is the case I would suggest they wouldn't be wanting to feed because they are dieing.

It has been claimed that a British record size Bream was caught many years ago at I think it was near or just north of Hartlepool,but was this fish caught fairly or was it washed up still alive then taken to be weighed.

But like its been said on this post,no club in the Uk will allow these fish to be submitted to the scales because they can be picked fresh and alive off the shore line.

I will second that Harry.
When we used to fish the Blast in the 70,s ans 80,s there were loads of them on the beach,not washed up dead but actualy swimming alive onto the shore.One morning i counted 32 on the blast beach as i walked along to Hawthorn point.
If they did feed in the north sea,then with the numbers that appear most years i think there would be a lot more "caught" on rod and line.
One thing is that they are really nice to eat.

 

[harry barker]

Yeah,the blast beach was littered with them over them years Davey ????? it is you mate.

Remember a Friday night after a few pints,we ended up on the blast as normal fishing the flood tide with a full moon the sea was flat as a pancake and we had quite a few nice cod on the beach when all of a sudden for 100 of yards ether side of us the sea erupted with fish beaching them selves,would have been 100s of them.

Tried putting them back but they would just swim away then come back onto the shore.

 

[g.ordon]

This has been talked about for years as to do they feed in our waters.

I'll give you my take on it,I have fished our coastline for more years than I care to remember and Iv'e seen hundreds of these fish washed up dead and also flapping but dieing as well.
normally if you see one there will be a lot of other close by or local to our area.
I have never caught one nor have I ever see one caught by any angler,also all my fishing buddies have also never caught or see one.

I beleive that these fish move down with the gulf stream and somehow go off
track and end up in our cold waters and are caught out by the change in temperature and are in a distressed state...hence they beach themselves and die.
Now if this is the case I would suggest they wouldn't be wanting to feed because they are dieing.

It has been claimed that a British record size Bream was caught many years ago at I think it was near or just north of Hartlepool,but was this fish caught fairly or was it washed up still alive then taken to be weighed.

But like its been said on this post,no club in the Uk will allow these fish to be submitted to the scales because they can be picked fresh and alive off the shore line.

A very good and logical post Harry. However there was a thread back in December last year about this and I posted I'd read a report in that months edition of sea angler (pg 29) of a one being caught down lincolnshire in a match. guy was no less than the club chairman or some high ranking position like that. Now was that true or just a load of press bu****it?