Sea water thread

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CODHEED said:
I re joined because of that thread, as far as i am concerned it was a complete load of rubbish, if you could steal sea water then logic says you would be stealing the fish,worms and crabs too!

it never happened, as a cop i can guarantee its a load of tripe.
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not having a go at any one here....... but how can you guarrantee it never happed
 
I have moved it to chat but really think it should be allowed to die a natural death as its starting to get personal again. If anybody has any issues can you take them to pm instead of having a handbag fight on the forum. Ta much :D
 
CODHEED said:
From 11.5 years of experience i have never ever known an innocent person get convicted of anything. I have also met hundreds , no make that probably thousands of people who have been working themselves and have claimed to be sober despite it being obvious to everyone that there mortal drunk.
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the most laughable thing you've said, either since you rejoined or before you were banned previously. You obviously have not read a newspaper or seen a news bulletin in the last 12 years

guildford 4, birmingham 6, bridgewater 4, sally clark, angela cannings, colin stagg, stefan kiszko, andrew adams and many others who's lives and families lives were permanently ruined, and spent many years in the chokey because the police LIED and FALSIFIED EVIDENCE

and thats just the high profile ones that imediately spring to mind

John Charles De Menezes wasn't quite so lucky, some trigger happy cops just shot him in the head a few times and then lied

as for the drunk bit, I don't know why they don't just have the words "his eyes were glazed, his breath smelt of alcohol - he was drunk' pre printed on the charge sheet

piece of **** to wave that particular charge around, it would take 30 seconds to breathalise them in the charge room and establish it as FACT ie THE TRUTH

but that would be way too easy, and good forbid, raise the possibility that an easy cop out for a conviction is no longer available, and justification for an arrest

20 years ago some nob had a pop at me in the toon one night, I'd just got off the train from london and was waiting for a taxi, so defending myself I ended up sticking one on him - and what do you know 10 mins later I'm in market street charged with 'drunk and disorderley'

'his eyes were glazed, his breath smelt etc etc etc'

gets to court, cps plonkers says 'this is a simple matter of D&D, and would request calls for witness statements be denied'

bish bash bosh have a 50 quid fine young man
 
mark said:
as for the drunk bit, I don't know why they don't just have the words "his eyes were glazed, his breath smelt of alcohol - he was drunk' pre printed on the charge sheet
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha pmsl..... what a belter :D:D:D:D:D
 
mark said:
the most laughable thing you've said, either since you rejoined or before you were banned previously. You obviously have not read a newspaper or seen a news bulletin in the last 12 years

I meant in my personal experience, not random stuff from the media



as for the drunk bit, I don't know why they don't just have the words "his eyes were glazed, his breath smelt of alcohol - he was drunk' pre printed on the charge sheet

Those words wouldnt appear on a charge sheet anyway

piece of **** to wave that particular charge around, it would take 30 seconds to breathalise them in the charge room and establish it as FACT ie THE TRUTH

breathaliseing someone doesnt prove they are drunk, it proves the alcohol level in the breath. For example a hardened alcoholic could be 3 times the drink drive limit but not drunk as such, seen it loads of times.

but that would be way too easy, and good forbid, raise the possibility that an easy cop out for a conviction is no longer available, and justification for an arrest

Justification for arrest? and how do you prove we evidentially breath test someone without arresting them? the machine is at the police station!

20 years ago some nob had a pop at me in the toon one night, I'd just got off the train from london and was waiting for a taxi, so defending myself I ended up sticking one on him - and what do you know 10 mins later I'm in market street charged with 'drunk and disorderley'

'his eyes were glazed, his breath smelt etc etc etc'

gets to court, cps plonkers says 'this is a simple matter of D&D, and would request calls for witness statements be denied'

witness statements to be denied??? load of rubbish disclosure rules mean the defence can see all the statements and all the unused material in any case, unused material can be all sorts of things from crime reports,notebook entries, incident logs etc etc and officers disciplianary records which are supplied in every case that goes to trial


i think some of the posters on here have been waching life on mars and the bill too much and believe what they see.
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and don't forget his speech was slurred , right to the station for you lad , take you shoes off or laces out ,belt off your pants & your glasses off ,so what if you cant see properly .now stay in this cell till all the buses have stopped running then you can have a nice walk back home & dont forget to pay your fine on time .bye bye
 
CODHEED said:
funnily enough those are signs that someone is drunk, so if your drunk the cop can see them, so when he describes you in a statement thats what he writes. common sense really
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aye but what we are getting at is the jokers... oops i mean police say people are drunk/under the influence of drugs when they're not.
 
kela66 said:
and don't forget his speech was slurred , right to the station for you lad , take you shoes off or laces out ,belt off your pants & your glasses off ,so what if you cant see properly .now stay in this cell till all the buses have stopped running then you can have a nice walk back home & dont forget to pay your fine on time .bye bye
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I was wearing slip ons without laces...:o

Me: "I'd like *hic* to see *hic* terms of reference *sway* outlining the terms surrounding my arrest"

Custody Sargent: "Mr Gray we have expert witness of half a dozen of my colleauges stating that you were and in fact are drunk and disorderly"

*meek voice of Mr Gray*

"can I have glass of water please? *hic"

fair does I was mortal :D

slap on the wrist, bunged out of the cells at dawn in the middle of no-where still three sheets to the wind :o

...my mate calling them fascists prob didn't help our cause :rolleyes:
 
to dismiss gross miscarriages of justice as 'random stuff in the media' shows a complete disregard for the rights of the individual.

before you got banned last time, you had a real problem with the fact that some people have a problem with police officers per se, in effect saying that 'all citizens are suspects' if they question the authority of the police, which was one of the basic principles of both the NKVD and the STASI.

you had Mussolini as an avatar and 'violence for equality' as a signature - very re-assuring :o

and you wonder why people question the motives of some police officers

It is that level of arrogance that cause many to distrust the police. Respect does not come automatically, and the attitutudes and actions of a few will often unfortunately colour the reputations of the many

there are good and bad in all walks of life. I've worked with some absolute gems of police officers and some that IMHO should be institutionalised.

As for the drunk bit, are you telling me that it is now common practice for anyone believed to be under the influence, to be breathalised immediately they are within the confines of a station, and then if not, immediately released?
 
mark said:
to dismiss gross miscarriages of justice as 'random stuff in the media' shows a complete disregard for the rights of the individual.

If you knew me i think you will find i have more regards than most for the rights of the individual. Its people whos criminality interferes with others rights that i object to.

Before you got banned last time, you had a real problem with the fact that some people have a problem with police officers per se, in effect saying that 'all citizens are suspects' if they question the authority of the police, which was one of the basic principles of both the nkvd and the stasi.

One big mistake, i did not get banned, i asked to be removed from the forum. You had mussolini as an avatar and 'violence for equality' as a signature - very re-assuring :o

i think you read too much into the pic of mussolini, it was a random pic thats all, beachlover has a pic of an arse as his avatar. Does that mean he is an arse? I think not

violence for equality was a quote by ted honderich.

Read his wiki, he has nothing to do with actual violence he is a philosopher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ted_ho...e drunk, alcohol tolerances differ[/FONT][/B]
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CODHEED said:
no its not common practice, breath testing is used for drink driving and thats it, thats all legislation allows, if someone blows under for drink driving they are immediately released. Unless there is a suspiscion their condition is due to drugs or they need to be spoken to re other offences.

There is no facility at all to use a breathaliser to tell if someone is drunk, in fact it doesnt tell you if someone is drunk. It gives you a reading of breath alcohol levels. Like i said a person can have a high level and not be drunk a person could also have a low level and be drunk, alcohol tolerances differ
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at the end of the day mate most police are a waste of space and me personally i cant stand them, they've never done anything for me. and when you look at all the innocent people that have spent years in the chokey for f**k all, boils my p**s that does. and the lad who was shot for looking like a suicide bomber whats that all about, trigger happy pigs thats what it is. and before you start going on about me having a criminal record (the reason for me disliking police) (like another member has) i dont have one, in fact ive never been arrested.
 
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