stealing sea water

[Markie1]

I too keep tropical marine fish and have done so for many years. I've always been aware that it is illegal to remove sand, creatures or water from beaches but I have never heard of anyone being pulled for it.
IMO topics like this become emotive not because people have a lack of respect for the law or the police but because they are frustrated by the impotence of the police to deal with the types of crime that effects us all in our day to day lives. Lets face it, the odds of getting caught speeding are far greater than the odds of having your burgled possessions retrieved. The police have a thankless job and are in a no win situation but when we hear about situations like this ( if true ) then it doesn't inspire confidence in policing priorities.
I really hope that this is an windup because if it is true then it means that there's a copper out there who should never have gotten through the aptitude tests and is doing nothing more than destroying the publics confidence in the police.

 

[johnf]

I must borrow at least 100 gallon per week on average, i say borrow because when the worms are finished using it i flush it down the drain which leads back to the sea, so it is returned.

No you don't flush it down the drain as you would need a trade effluent licence to do that. You take it back to the beach

 

[The Plum]

no i do not belive it this is just bullsdroppings , i dont belive it one bit,he wouldnt av left his barrel either theyre expensive

 

[rod-the-cod]

Even if the comments made were true I find it amazing that on websites like this people are very quick to slag each other off and go from DEFCON 1 to DEFCON 999 (police joke hahaha) because they are at the ends of a keyboard. If the same people were on the end of a pier or beach drowning some worms (no that is not cruelty to animals) I bet the conversation would be a lot more civil and a good night would be had by all. So come on everyone, group hug and get at those Parking Wardens instead (only kidding).

I think the police are great especialy the dog handlers.

traffic wardens scum of the earth dog handlers a reet dodgy lot and fishing coppers even worse..

 

[Charlton]

Rubbish! Absolute rubbish! Sand and stones yes - water....no way!

I might stand corrected on the water? but no need to put it like that.

 

[drof46]

woah, woah, woah,

Not everyone who critisises our illustrious boys in blue has a criminal record.

Maybe they just read the press and aknowledge the fact that around twice a month a serving police officer is convicted of a serious criminal misdemeanour.

I'm not saying that 'All Coppers Are Bent' but enough of them are for it to be a major problem to the British public.

 

[Sigsy]

My old man was a copper...




....and he's a right dodgy c**t

 

[Markie1]

Wasn't meant to sound like how you've read it....but you were actually telling anglers that they could get into trouble for taking sea water.....

Isn't getting into trouble for taking sea water what this thread is all about?
It will be interesting to see what the law actually says but I remember reading an article in Practical Fishkeeping years ago about keeping native marines and that implied that it was in theory against the law to remove water from beaches.

 

[treeboa]

Isn't getting into trouble for taking sea water what this thread is all about?
It will be interesting to see what the law actually says but I remember reading an article in Practical Fishkeeping years ago about keeping native marines and that implied that it was in theory against the law to remove water from beaches.

dunno if you frequent marine fishkeeping forums, theres a fair few threads from lads that collect the stuff, and not in small amounts, i have never seen the warning thats its against the law to do so, not that im saying your wrong just pointing out that warning has never been seen by me,though yes i am aware its against the law to take native livestock from the beach, still if its correct it seems daft, the beach below the mean high water mark belongs mainly to crown estates, over 55% of it, however the beach is mainly static the water over it can come from anywhere so can a law be in place that owns the water actually be in place ?? you may get cautioned but i cant see the cps wanting that cherry and the costs of it if some jobsworth arrested you over it

perhaps its now time to make sure everything is totally dry before you leave the beach, and god help any one who falls in

 

[Codcodcod!]

I too keep tropical marine fish and have done so for many years. I've always been aware that it is illegal to remove sand, creatures or water from beaches but I have never heard of anyone being pulled for it.

Just caught the start and end of this thread. Does that mean u can get pulled for removing fish, worms and crabs then?!

 

[treeboa]

theres something in place about personal use as in bait i think, someone else will know the rules im sure

 

[g-force]

If it happened to me I'd say I'm just trying to do my bit to combat rising sea levels...

 

[Charlton]

Just caught the start and end of this thread. Does that mean u can get pulled for removing fish, worms and crabs then?!

an angler has the right to collect bait for his own use, certain bye laws maybe in place that restricts the area you can collect bait though, like the one everyone ignores at Boulmer.

 

[mick dunn]

This cannot possibly be true. Its so ridiculous that i,m lost for words.

I can imagine the custody sgts face when you inform them that the person you have arrested has been nicking sea water from the sea.

Mick (bricky for 10 years and a copper for 20).

 

[Red5]

an angler has the right to collect bait for his own use, certain bye laws maybe in place that restricts the area you can collect bait though, like the one everyone ignores at Boulmer.

Unfortunately it's a different breed of digger that digs there today Alan to those you helped back when that Byelaw was introduced.


Think that when the Marine bill goes through and we start getting Marine Protection sites popping up all over the place, Boulmer may well become one of them and you may well be done for taking more than sea water. wether people want to believe it or not worm populations, size and quality are suffering with the amount going there. I took the kids for a walk there on New Years day and noticed there was a burger van and wondered if that was to cater for the diggers, there's so many these days.

It may well be that in the next few years we are forced to accept a licence, bag limits and no take zones if we want to be part of deciding how fisheries are managed.

If a quota system was introduced, say like what is in place in Australia, where you are allowed to take a certain number for your own use i.e. worms or consumption i.e lobsters (strict penalties for not obeying size limits) then it may go a long way to conserving what we have left.

 

[Codcodcod!]

Well Paul u will just have to fish one open then! lol

 

[Beachlover]

My mate told me he shot a pheasant with a 12 bore at about 100 yards up, when it fell it landed on a hare and killed it out right. He walked over to it, picked up the pheasant, picked up the hare, and would you believe it.......there was a pound of mushrooms under it.

It,s probably him that was stealing the water!!!

Don't get so uptight everyone, the police have just arrested me for illegal use of oxygen, from now on I'll hold my breath..........

 

[dizzydaz]

a complete joke at the end of the day is there ever going to be a shortage of sea water take 5 mins and think about it id love to see a case like that end up in court...it would probally be laughed straight back out of the door

 

[tonynufc]

as i said in a previous post ive never been arrested but if i was the guy in question i would have told the c**t to arrest me just to see how far it would actually go.

 

[mick dunn]

Tony trust me this DID NOT HAPPEN.