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phill_itofish
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The area in which I work is within the South West Mackerel Box - an area noted for juvenille mackerel; this area was set up to protect immature mackerel from pelagic boats who used to dump several catches before they filled up with marketable fish.
Hook and line fishermen, being the most selective are allowed to fish within this box.
If we drop our lines on a mark and pull up a string of baby mackerel ("chuckers" as we call them) we move on and try another. Obviosly a pelagic boat only finds out the grade of fish they have caught when it is too late. The fish are already dead.
Unbelievably, pelagic boats are still allowed to work within this "protective" mackerel box; but they are not allowed to target mackerel and are only allowed a small mackerel bycatch. Any surplus must be dumped dead.
Went out to sea yesturday fishing for mackerel with the usual lines of 20 mackerel hooks.
On the way out I passed two industrial pair trawlers fishing for scads or pilchards or whatever; (NOT fishing for mackerel? remember!!)
The sea was thick with mackerel; I stopped numerous times on many marks trying to find fish that were a decent size (small fish are not worth anything so we target the bigger ones)
The Wiron1 and Wiron2 are pelagic pair trawling with an enormous net scooping up all and sundry in their path. Nothing selective about what they do.
They passed me headed out and carried on towing their net right into the 6nm limit and then along the coast.
Some pelagic boats are quite selective. They sample the shoal with hook and line, they shoot their net and haul it after a few mins.
These boats towed their net for over an hour. Fish quality is obviously not their priority.
What gets my back up is the fact these boats are allowed to fish in such a massive scale within a designated nursery area and any surplus mackerel they catch has to be dumped.
Another joke is that these boats are registered under the "responsible fishing" scheme.
Local boats have steamed passed them, steaming through huge areas of floating dead fish and slick on the surface. Local trawlers start hauling up dead fish the day after they start.
We complain the the local seafishery office - they admit they know what is going on, but just try to play it down.
Trouble is; money talks and the owners of these boats (a company called Interfish - also own a fleet of 4 or more similar boats) have alot of money and alot of clout.
The mackerel have only just started to show a recovery from where they were nearly wiped out in the 70's by outside pelagic boats landing direct to the klondykers.
As soon as they start to show up here, the Wiron1 & Wiron2 turn up and hammer them to oblivion.
I'm in today beacuse of weather. They wont be; they will work around the clock. When i go back out tommorow, i'll be struggling to find any marks at all as the pair teams brake up the shoals and scatter the fish they dont manage to catch.
What chance do the mackerel; and the cornish handline fishermen have ?
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The area in which I work is within the South West Mackerel Box - an area noted for juvenille mackerel; this area was set up to protect immature mackerel from pelagic boats who used to dump several catches before they filled up with marketable fish.
Hook and line fishermen, being the most selective are allowed to fish within this box.
If we drop our lines on a mark and pull up a string of baby mackerel ("chuckers" as we call them) we move on and try another. Obviosly a pelagic boat only finds out the grade of fish they have caught when it is too late. The fish are already dead.
Unbelievably, pelagic boats are still allowed to work within this "protective" mackerel box; but they are not allowed to target mackerel and are only allowed a small mackerel bycatch. Any surplus must be dumped dead.
Went out to sea yesturday fishing for mackerel with the usual lines of 20 mackerel hooks.
On the way out I passed two industrial pair trawlers fishing for scads or pilchards or whatever; (NOT fishing for mackerel? remember!!)
The sea was thick with mackerel; I stopped numerous times on many marks trying to find fish that were a decent size (small fish are not worth anything so we target the bigger ones)
The Wiron1 and Wiron2 are pelagic pair trawling with an enormous net scooping up all and sundry in their path. Nothing selective about what they do.
They passed me headed out and carried on towing their net right into the 6nm limit and then along the coast.
Some pelagic boats are quite selective. They sample the shoal with hook and line, they shoot their net and haul it after a few mins.
These boats towed their net for over an hour. Fish quality is obviously not their priority.
What gets my back up is the fact these boats are allowed to fish in such a massive scale within a designated nursery area and any surplus mackerel they catch has to be dumped.
Another joke is that these boats are registered under the "responsible fishing" scheme.
Local boats have steamed passed them, steaming through huge areas of floating dead fish and slick on the surface. Local trawlers start hauling up dead fish the day after they start.
We complain the the local seafishery office - they admit they know what is going on, but just try to play it down.
Trouble is; money talks and the owners of these boats (a company called Interfish - also own a fleet of 4 or more similar boats) have alot of money and alot of clout.
The mackerel have only just started to show a recovery from where they were nearly wiped out in the 70's by outside pelagic boats landing direct to the klondykers.
As soon as they start to show up here, the Wiron1 & Wiron2 turn up and hammer them to oblivion.
I'm in today beacuse of weather. They wont be; they will work around the clock. When i go back out tommorow, i'll be struggling to find any marks at all as the pair teams brake up the shoals and scatter the fish they dont manage to catch.
What chance do the mackerel; and the cornish handline fishermen have ?
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Sorry guys, you miss out on the pictures of the trawlers.
Industrial fishing discrace
The area in which I work is within the South West Mackerel Box - an area noted for juvenille mackerel; this area was set up to protect immature mackerel from pelagic boats who used to dump several catches before they filled up with marketable fish.
Hook and line fishermen, being the most selective are allowed to fish within this box.
If we drop our lines on a mark and pull up a string of baby mackerel ("chuckers" as we call them) we move on and try another. Obviosly a pelagic boat only finds out the grade of fish they have caught when it is too late. The fish are already dead.
Unbelievably, pelagic boats are still allowed to work within this "protective" mackerel box; but they are not allowed to target mackerel and are only allowed a small mackerel bycatch. Any surplus must be dumped dead.
Went out to sea yesturday fishing for mackerel with the usual lines of 20 mackerel hooks.
On the way out I passed two industrial pair trawlers fishing for scads or pilchards or whatever; (NOT fishing for mackerel? remember!!)
The sea was thick with mackerel; I stopped numerous times on many marks trying to find fish that were a decent size (small fish are not worth anything so we target the bigger ones)
The Wiron1 and Wiron2 are pelagic pair trawling with an enormous net scooping up all and sundry in their path. Nothing selective about what they do.
They passed me headed out and carried on towing their net right into the 6nm limit and then along the coast.
Some pelagic boats are quite selective. They sample the shoal with hook and line, they shoot their net and haul it after a few mins.
These boats towed their net for over an hour. Fish quality is obviously not their priority.
What gets my back up is the fact these boats are allowed to fish in such a massive scale within a designated nursery area and any surplus mackerel they catch has to be dumped.
Another joke is that these boats are registered under the "responsible fishing" scheme.
Local boats have steamed passed them, steaming through huge areas of floating dead fish and slick on the surface. Local trawlers start hauling up dead fish the day after they start.
We complain the the local seafishery office - they admit they know what is going on, but just try to play it down.
Trouble is; money talks and the owners of these boats (a company called Interfish - also own a fleet of 4 or more similar boats) have alot of money and alot of clout.
The mackerel have only just started to show a recovery from where they were nearly wiped out in the 70's by outside pelagic boats landing direct to the klondykers.
As soon as they start to show up here, the Wiron1 & Wiron2 turn up and hammer them to oblivion.
I'm in today beacuse of weather. They wont be; they will work around the clock. When i go back out tommorow, i'll be struggling to find any marks at all as the pair teams brake up the shoals and scatter the fish they dont manage to catch.
What chance do the mackerel; and the cornish handline fishermen have ?
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Industrial fishing discrace
The area in which I work is within the South West Mackerel Box - an area noted for juvenille mackerel; this area was set up to protect immature mackerel from pelagic boats who used to dump several catches before they filled up with marketable fish.
Hook and line fishermen, being the most selective are allowed to fish within this box.
If we drop our lines on a mark and pull up a string of baby mackerel ("chuckers" as we call them) we move on and try another. Obviosly a pelagic boat only finds out the grade of fish they have caught when it is too late. The fish are already dead.
Unbelievably, pelagic boats are still allowed to work within this "protective" mackerel box; but they are not allowed to target mackerel and are only allowed a small mackerel bycatch. Any surplus must be dumped dead.
Went out to sea yesturday fishing for mackerel with the usual lines of 20 mackerel hooks.
On the way out I passed two industrial pair trawlers fishing for scads or pilchards or whatever; (NOT fishing for mackerel? remember!!)
The sea was thick with mackerel; I stopped numerous times on many marks trying to find fish that were a decent size (small fish are not worth anything so we target the bigger ones)
The Wiron1 and Wiron2 are pelagic pair trawling with an enormous net scooping up all and sundry in their path. Nothing selective about what they do.
They passed me headed out and carried on towing their net right into the 6nm limit and then along the coast.
Some pelagic boats are quite selective. They sample the shoal with hook and line, they shoot their net and haul it after a few mins.
These boats towed their net for over an hour. Fish quality is obviously not their priority.
What gets my back up is the fact these boats are allowed to fish in such a massive scale within a designated nursery area and any surplus mackerel they catch has to be dumped.
Another joke is that these boats are registered under the "responsible fishing" scheme.
Local boats have steamed passed them, steaming through huge areas of floating dead fish and slick on the surface. Local trawlers start hauling up dead fish the day after they start.
We complain the the local seafishery office - they admit they know what is going on, but just try to play it down.
Trouble is; money talks and the owners of these boats (a company called Interfish - also own a fleet of 4 or more similar boats) have alot of money and alot of clout.
The mackerel have only just started to show a recovery from where they were nearly wiped out in the 70's by outside pelagic boats landing direct to the klondykers.
As soon as they start to show up here, the Wiron1 & Wiron2 turn up and hammer them to oblivion.
I'm in today beacuse of weather. They wont be; they will work around the clock. When i go back out tommorow, i'll be struggling to find any marks at all as the pair teams brake up the shoals and scatter the fish they dont manage to catch.
What chance do the mackerel; and the cornish handline fishermen have ?
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bluesbiker
Well-known member
mackrel
mackrel
aye money talks have enuf and you can do what you want,,mind ive never seen a handline owned by a multi millionare,,,put a net in for pocket money off the shore and watch out,perhaps a bass or two and the odd seatrout they will clatter you but fish illegaly 4 millions of mackrel well whos bothered about the big boys
mackrel
aye money talks have enuf and you can do what you want,,mind ive never seen a handline owned by a multi millionare,,,put a net in for pocket money off the shore and watch out,perhaps a bass or two and the odd seatrout they will clatter you but fish illegaly 4 millions of mackrel well whos bothered about the big boys
