The future of shore fishing

[MickMcC]

EU'S 'DESPERATE' bid to grab UK fish stocks under Brexit revealed | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Please bear this article in mind when you vote in the future.
If we want to preserve our fish stocks and hope to increase our catches in the future there is only UKIP who will represent our fishing community.
2016/17 has to be one of the worst winter fishing seasons ever for shore anglers.
Labour when David Milliband was an MP wanted to introduce a sea fishing licence and we can't trust the Conservatives to represent local fishing communities.
There is only one way to improve this, vote UKIP.

Please do your research and vote to help all fisher folk in the country.

Cheers, Mick.

 

[Tweedy]

Upon withdrawal, the CFP will cease to apply automatically, meaning the UK will be free to manage her own waters with no historical rights to honour.

The EU having agreed to this “clean sheet” as per the terms of Article 50, Section 3 – “the treaties shall cease to apply”.

The UK will return to being an independent coastal state subject to international law on fisheries (UNCLOS 3) just like Faroe, Norway and Iceland

UNCLOS 3 clearly states, in Article 61, that a coastal state has sovereignty over and discretion to manage its own waters and all fisheries resources therein.

Full story here : EU Parliament Expose – EU Brexit Hardball | Fishing for Leave

As for voting, well never trust a politician. They are all full o ****e.
Leave the E.U save our NHS, mmmmm pack of lies. Just look at whats going on with the NHS.

No matter how you vote, us little people get shafted.
They are all ****s, just a matter of what **** you want up ya.
uKIP aint the top o my list.

 

[LiamNE]

UKIP have been long time vocal supports of our fishing industry as a whole; that includes leisure fishing and us shore anglers.
If fishings all you care about when voting, then sure – UKIPs probably your political party.

As for Brexit, theres no way the EU will retain/share any rights to Britain’s waters upon Article 50 being set in motion. This bile is just them trying to grab as many of the spoils as possible. There would have to be specific, targeted and agreed legislation / agreement for them to retain any rights whatsoever to Britain’s fishing grounds.

I’d have to echo Tweedy’s sentiments re; politics in general.
I work for the Gov and often I find that I must choose between the lesser of two evils…

((Opinions stated are my own and are nothing more than my own personal opinion))

 

[kayos]

Mick I think you need to take your own advice and do some research - which, by the way, should not include the Daily Express!!

PS if you want to vote for a party that has a leader who claimed, in two separate posts, (in his name, on his own website), that he had "lost close personal friends at the Hillsborough disaster." then had to admit it was a lie, but "he hadn't seen the posts" (on his own website). Or a party that had Farage as leader - a man who has taken £85,000 per annum for the last 18 years and £1 million in the last 5 years in expenses from an organisation he purports to despise and wants abolished, then you go right ahead!!

 

[g.ordon]

typical brussels telling us what we can and can't do, hate them, glad UK's out, forever.

 

[alcaucin]

unfortunately you have to go with one of them, and they will all spin a pack of lies. After initiating article 50 can you honestly see the frogs and Spaniards staying out of our waters, dream on. They will carry on as if nothing has happened, and what will our gov't do? ?Complain in the most strongest terms no doubt. Bugger all in other words

 

[kayos]

unfortunately you have to go with one of them, and they will all spin a pack of lies. After initiating article 50 can you honestly see the frogs and Spaniards staying out of our waters, dream on. They will carry on as if nothing has happened, and what will our gov't do? ?Complain in the most strongest terms no doubt. Bugger all in other words

British fishermen have already sold over 50% of the UK quota to foreign vessels, so they will continue to fish in our waters. Should they have been able to do this? It is UK's quota and I believe they should not have been allowed to sell our fish quotas for personal gain, but they did and made millions of pounds doing so and people should remember that before they bleat about the "frogs and Spanish!"

 

[alcaucin]

point taken, but do they play by the rules?

 

[saltysam]

British fishermen have already sold over 50% of the UK quota to foreign vessels, so they will continue to fish in our waters. Should they have been able to do this? It is UK's quota and I believe they should not have been allowed to sell our fish quotas for personal gain, but they did and made millions of pounds doing so and people should remember that before they bleat about the "frogs and Spanish!"

Also most of the British fishermen were forced into selling the boats "business" to new foreign owners granting them actress to British fishing grounds and then shipping the moneys and fish abroad some sending foreign crew here ----will we take our grounds back????? NO-- will we see I fishing licence YES will we see extra access to parts of the coast --NO The only difference that I can see will happen with this bexit will be on paper and nothing will change

 

[kayos]

Also most of the British fishermen were forced into selling the boats "business" to new foreign owners granting them actress to British fishing grounds and then shipping the moneys and fish abroad some sending foreign crew here ----will we take our grounds back????? NO-- will we see I fishing licence YES will we see extra access to parts of the coast --NO The only difference that I can see will happen with this bexit will be on paper and nothing will change

How were they forced!!??

 

[Davey1970]

a don't think it matter's who's in force.
there all ben't and don't give a toss about the average working class.
just my opinion.

 

[LiamNE]

Also most of the British fishermen were forced into selling the boats "business" to new foreign owners granting them actress to British fishing grounds and then shipping the moneys and fish abroad some sending foreign crew here ----will we take our grounds back????? NO-- will we see I fishing licence YES will we see extra access to parts of the coast --NO The only difference that I can see will happen with this bexit will be on paper and nothing will change

Forced is the wrong word...
Might have been better phased; left with little choice

Anyway don't worry about Brexit, I see this morning Tony Blair is going to stop it all

 

[kayos]

Forced is the wrong word...
Might have been better phased; left with little choice

Anyway don't worry about Brexit, I see this morning Tony Blair is going to stop it all

I'd be ecstatic to sell my business for millions of pounds! I do worry about Brexit, but Tony Blair, (war criminal), we are all doomed now for sure!

And don't get me started on Trump - I'm so glad I am not a youngster trying to start out in life!

 

[saltysam]

How were they forced!!??

Forced by the ways of pushing them into catch size quota's that only apply to British fishermen and having to throw away by-catch forced into tying up for a number of days per year when the fishing is good then trying to go a make up for lost time when times fall hard forced into taking low prices for fish as there is to much fish from foreign boats flooding the markets the list go's could on this comes from experiences that I have seen from when I used to fish commercially ---some things might have changed now ? but all in all we are going to be shafted by the government only time will tell Is the sea over fished? YES but not buy the British

 

[The Doctor]

How were they forced!!??

The traitors* would not compensate them nor buy their licenses off them. The traitors* should have bought the licenses and torn them up ...

traitors*? = The UK government = Thatcher and Co at the time.

 

[InCodweTrust]

UKIP Protecting British Fisheries?????

UKIP Protecting British Fisheries?????

The traitors* would not compensate them nor buy their licenses off them. The traitors* should have bought the licenses and torn them up ...

traitors*? = The UK government = Thatcher and Co at the time.

UKIP...Total Crap...Mr Farage who sat on the EU fisheries committee, and didn't attend a single meeting of said committee for over 2 years....He is a Snake Oil salesman whose backers have a very dangerous agenda.
Look at his real backers....some of the most dodgy wheeler s and dealers out there...people who will outsource any anything to any part of the world where they can make the most profit, without any care for the UK, or UK Jobs, they purport to support so vehemently.
I saw three profitable companies, move abroad, costing me my job, just to maximise their margins....British people sold of British Technology, and British jobs!
Before we start blaming all the Europeans for fishing's ill's...we should remember it wasn't that long ago there were massive fines imposed on several British fish processing plants who were processing 1000's of tons of illegally caught fish, which weren't caught by foreign boats.
Boats quotas were sold to the highest bidder...they could have been green with three tits, if the price was right !
British commercial fishing is far from clean in the demise of the industry !
UKIP will tell you anything that will get them power...and when they have power..... we will regret it!

 

[regpude]

makes alot of sence that reply.good 1 to get your hundereth post up..

 

[alcaucin]

I suppose it's easy to be over patriotic and think that us brits are the only ones playing by the rules when in fact we have probably had a hand in causing a lot of the troubles around the world by interfering and bribes and other shady deals. There again , the meek won't inherit the earth.

 

[The Doctor]

Farage? UKIP? Total crap? Thanks very much. Read this. Like I said it goes back to The Early eighties back to the Traitor Thatcher and Co. The Traitor Thatcher betrayed British fishermen. HMG would not buy the licenses off them nor give them any compensation to scrap their boats. How do I know? I was there mate. That's how I know.

Here is a couple of paragraphs from the article.

Everyone agrees that too many European boats are chasing too few fish. Britain, along with other EU states, has agreed three Europe-wide programmes to pay off fishermen and scrap their boats. But the British Government refused at first to fund its share (30 per cent) of the compensation, so for many years the scheme was not available to British fishermen.

Why not? The Treasury blocked the scheme because it would have reduced the annual UK budget rebate from Brussels. Whatever the EU spent on paying off British boats would be deducted from the celebrated Thatcher cash- back scheme, which reduces Britain's net budget deficit with the EU. The Government preferred to spend both its money, and the EU money, in other ways. Fisheries were not a priority.

This is complex but it is vital to an understanding of quota-hoppers. In the early Eighties, there were a couple of dozen. Their numbers exploded during the decade. Why? Because British trawler owners sold their boats to the Spanish and Dutch. Or in some cases they sold them to British brokers, who sold them to the Spanish and Dutch. Why? Because they were offering the best price.

 

[alcaucin]

so does this registering of uk boats by Spanish / French only allowed because they are eu members or can any country do it.If it is only or members , will it cease at brexit? I can remember the Russian factory ships in the 80's wiping out the mackerel on the west coast of Scotland and was it them who were guilty of all but destroying the cod stocks there? or was it someone or something else? . I remember the club I was in used to travel to the kyles of bute to fish for big cod and jumbo haddock in the 70's , you would be lucky to catch a cod at all there now. How can you control the fishing around your own coast if it is being fished by foreigners, you only have to look to the med to see what will eventually happen or even to the east coast of Canada where cod fishing was totally wiped out by indiscriminate use of trawl nets that totally destroyed the ecosystem there and it has never recovered and probably never will. We have recent history to warn us of the dangers we face if we cannot or will not control what is happening on our doorstep , Hopefully the quota system will save the day but it has been such a bad year for cod it makes we wonder what's gone wrong.