1 of my best marks i like to fish best fished is on a dying southerly just as the sea is nearly flat but still has alot of colour tides got to be around the 1metre mark as you can get on both pads first pad i chuck between 10 and 11 as if you use the pipe as 12 on the second pad i chuck between 10 and 2 start with a short cast of around 30 to 40 yards can be heavy on gear some times you can go on and not lose any gear but other times its nearly every try and get on the first pad as it comes out of water hope this help.