you can not buy distance , you can now

[cod magnet]

the old saying you can not buy distance which i firmly believed in for a long time as been blown out of the water imho ,you CAN buy distance now , with the long continental rods fix spools and braid, is helping people get massive distance with baits on , obviously the diamater of braid is much thinner than mono , and when attached to a fix spool the sinker goes like a crackoff compared to a multiplier not much weight to tow behind it , no revolving spool , a good style will still obviously help but buying distance is there now .what do you think lads

 

[lead chucker]

Still need a good stiff rod in the rough stuff, braid doesn't seem to like too stiff.

 

[Topcast]

def buy distance I watched a lad with a horrible technique but a bait miles with a expensive fixed spool on a clean beach or fishing over mixed ground onto clean the longer softer rods with braid is a long way past mono

 

[lead chucker]

Bloody fishing, back to the dooly reels again lol

 

[beachbuddy]

def buy distance I watched a lad with a horrible technique but a bait miles with a expensive fixed spool on a clean beach or fishing over mixed ground onto clean the longer softer rods with braid is a long way past mono

You must have been watching apples,the harbour lads adopt that casting style short drop and very quick.

 

[john/r]

quite a few are thinking about braid on account of it casts well been so thin.

problem with it there is no stretch and can tear hook from fishes mouth easily unless you use a soft rod to cushion the fighting fish but most of us here tend to use heavier rods than people down south who fish clean beaches.

most people know the coarse anglers who use roach poles with elastic for this reason.

wth f/spools apparently braid leaders are a must to avoid crack offs there again very harsh when casting try pendulum casting heavy leads on stiff rods very diff to multipliers.

i do use braid on f/spools and multipliers but not blinkered by braid it has its uses but so does mono.

with braid for me i ask myself how is it going to stand up to abrasion fishing heavy ground with it does it not get worn out quick the good stuff certainly aint cheap.

 

[EFC FOREVER]

I tried fixed spool with braid and I didnt like it at I can see the benefits in it extra distance ect but the abrasion is a definite problem with the ground that I fish I wouldnt really trust it on cliffs (although many lads fish well with it) and then you have hook pulls ect to take into account fair enuff if you are putting a small bait into the horizon every little bit helps but for me im happy with daiwa tournament line. saltist 30. and tip tornado sport

 

[Winton]

Useing a fixed spool makes fishing boreing for me cant get away with it

 

[bigfella]

I like my diawa sl20sh multi with braid n it is alot stronger than mono like diawa senser 30lb i used to get snagged and snap off alot.Now i very rearly snap off n have to fill my spool again n again

 

[john/r]

original thread is right in a way about buying distance as if you have the cash you can pay for casting lessons which would be a great asset and also able to go round the casting circuit difff venues around the country so yes in a way you can buy distance.

 

[bigfella]

Does any1 no how much lessons would be?

 

[spongebob]

Peter thain charges about £20-25 per hr. he had me hitting further in half that time top man!!;-)

 

[john/r]

Does any1 no how much lessons would be?

prices can vary m8 p thain has a page on facebook you could contact him on there this is the person i would choose but thats me .
another guy on here arc is supposed to be very good on learning great reports about him and i am not sure if jay lee gives lessons

p thain northuumberland i think
arc and jay lee hartleepool area

dont know of any newcastle or sunderland way maybe someone else may know of some.

 

[bigfella]

Cheers pal

 

[beachbuddy]

prices can vary m8 p thain has a page on facebook you could contact him on there this is the person i would choose but thats me .
another guy on here arc is supposed to be very good on learning great reports about him and i am not sure if jay lee gives lessons

p thain northuumberland i think
arc and jay lee hartleepool area

dont know of any newcastle or sunderland way maybe someone else may know of some.

Tommy kitson he's at murton but always down the hall beach top bomber.

 

[Codcodcod!]

Personally, fixed spool and braid will just get you roughly the same distance as a multi IMO... Unless your fishing heavy braid vs heavy mono, then the braid will give you valuable yards if you need them..

I found that with braid shockas that the bait unclips a lot of the time with no cushioning affect. I'm not willing to change rigs, casting style etc..just to use a braid shocka and braid just for better bite detection when it's flat calm!

I've recently switched to mono shocka with braid with no problems thus far by tweekin it. It still bangs through the rings and prob looses a few yards distance wise.. I'll give it a go this summer and if I don't like it there'll be a shimano fixed spool in the for sale section come sept!!

As for long rods, a good caster with a powerful shorter rod will outcast a long rod IMO with bait esp in cod weather...

 

[john/r]

been reading about the braid scenario.

long continental rods wth fspool and braid will give the overhead thumper more distance than normal beach rod.

plus your normal beach rod can be used with braid fspool pendulum which will give better distances than mono.

been giving the braid a go for a little while but still not sure if way to go plenty of advantages and disadvantages.

 

[Deans]

, , yeh marra can get a half decent cast with a fixed spool and braid on a lighter rod. and know some good anglers who have changed and stuck with it.

tried it myself down the chems over a season just wasn't for me.
normally down there when the winds blown a hooly, and the sea is away. light rod and braid wouldn't cope as mono/hard rod would. rod just flapping about not for me.
tried thin braid and suitable rod, still couldn't cope with the conditions. even holding the rod.
lost a few fish messing about trying to cusion the lack of stretch in the braid with the give in the soft rod, by this time fish snagged, and gone, hook ripped out.

know paul medd, n them kings of this set up, must know summit I dont



totally agree about buying distance just not for the idiots who prefer to stand in a onshore gale holding a scaffold pole

ha

 

[scotty73]

casting ???

casting ???

iv read a lot off posts on here and on other sites . with a lot off different coments on grass with this rod and that rod and reels they casting 250 + .but put a rig and bait on see how good there are I cast on grass with zziplex m427 and penn mag2 . 18lb line 60 shock leader 5oz sinker and empty the reel . same with my daiwa st . but put rig and bait on I cant . my brother with his 10 year old rod and reel casts about the same when we are fishing ?? so can you really buy distance . I fished the glass center few weeks back with the old man . there was a lad zziplex m427 su and daiwa st not the cheapest set up . he was pendling ? casting ??? whats the point . or iam totally wrong

 

[john/r]

iv read a lot off posts on here and on other sites . with a lot off different coments on grass with this rod and that rod and reels they casting 250 + .but put a rig and bait on see how good there are I cast on grass with zziplex m427 and penn mag2 . 18lb line 60 shock leader 5oz sinker and empty the reel . same with my daiwa st . but put rig and bait on I cant . my brother with his 10 year old rod and reel casts about the same when we are fishing ?? so can you really buy distance . I fished the glass center few weeks back with the old man . there was a lad zziplex m427 su and daiwa st not the cheapest set up . he was pendling ? casting ??? whats the point . or iam totally wrong

personaly myself i have no idea how far i put a baited rig out and i like to put out a baited rig whilst fishing and i certainly cant walk on water to measure how far it went.

some days it looks as if rig is going out a long way other days not wether they are going out on good days is debatable sometimes for some reason they look as if they land a long way out or is it a illusion.

the only way to measure your cast is on a field measured compared to others casting clubs etc.

personaly myself i am happy enough doing what i do and thats all that matters just go down to enjoy myself fish are out of range some days and you can overcast them other days.