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Me granny said she can remeber them after the war not sure of beforehand shes got some pics ill upload when i go see her shes 101 so has a good memory of tje old days
 
Me granny said she can remeber them after the war not sure of beforehand shes got some pics ill upload when i go see her shes 101 so has a good memory of tje old days

be interesting to see those, found quite a few myself but none with any sewer pipes on, she may have images of the original outlets before they where extended in 1956.
 
that's brilliant John, the mystery is solved the one we are on about built 1956, hope they where not pumping sewage out onto the beach from the wall before that?

So what we're saying is that up until 1956 there was either no sewage pipes on the beach or it was restricted to the holes in the prom that dumped it straight onto the sands. That doesn't sound right to me, especially having spent a while looking at the link to the website John mentioned that implies a number of pipes were put in around 1900 and, certainly, the pipe at the Bottom of the Stairs didn't look 5 years old when I started having picnics on the beach.
 
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Looking at the history of planning I think a lot of these outfalls were indeed constructed in the early/mid 1900's. These outfalls would have ended at the mean low water mark without any treatment. Remember the populations served by these outfalls would have been significantly less so as the amount of sewage grew the out falls would have been enlarged and extended to suit. For example perhaps the 'old pipe end' was replaced by 'Whitley pipe'.
 
David
looking at the info it looks as pre 1956 in those days most of the sewage went into the Tyne and not onto the open shore, l
 
David just woke up that removal date of 1966 must be wrong I was only a teenager then and couldn't drive didn't get a car until early twenties and can remember going onto Slatey via the pipe for a good while after that I must of been in my late thirteis early forties must of been the late 1990's
 
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David just woke up that removal date of 1966 must be wrong I was only a teenager then and couldn't drive didn't get a car until early twenties and can remember going onto Slatey via the pipe for a good while after that I must of been in my late thirteis early forties must of been the late 1990's

Morning Alan,

What removal date of 1966? Thought we'd agreed the pipes were taken out in the early 1990's.....and are you saying you were still a teenager in 1966? hahaha

Anyway the real purpose of the thread and the reason Alan and I were so keen to find out the dates was the question of the sand from Tynemouth and its relentless march north. Alan mentioned to me that it had now reached the Harbour skeers and the logical next step is that the sand will end up in the Harbour itself and we might see an end to the fishing and even safe access for boats.

Which begs the question - why didn't this scenario occur before the pipes were put in? - as conditions would have been pretty similar to what we find today. My only offering was that sea levels are slightly higher today and that might allow subsequent higher tides to move more sand but that's only a wild guess.

Any thoughts?
 
I managed to find a few images on the net - unfortunately I couldn't find any that showed the north end, but you can certainly see how the south end has been used / developed / neglected over the years…Not sure it's exactly what you were looking for, but hopefully of some interest…













Gary :)
what year were these photos from
 
This has some information on sediment moval that may be if some interest David. Section 3.1

http://www.cefas.defra.gov.uk/publications/techrep/tech51.pdf

Thanks for the "light reading" John. I've read it all and forgotten most of it. To save others the trouble it is largely to do with materials we've dumped in the sea. Most interesting to us, which we already knew, is that the smaller the sea the less sand gets moved about and the stronger the sea the greater the effect on the bottom (up to 80 metres down - not that we would worry about that this side of the horizon). Unfortunately there's not enough detail at beach level but it does pinpoint the type of bottom between Lynemouth and Hartlepool.
 
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