Fox Hunting Ban

[CJS]

You got a point Red5 ! ! ! Live and let live, with a bit of ducking and diving? The one about to many fish, we have all seen the pics in the mags of loads of dead and often inedible fish, for what, a competition prooving what? A hint of getting ones own house in order there, \'them in glass houses . . . etc\'
CJS :yltype:

 

[jethro18]

Went and did a bit of course fishing today, and guess what?? I was annoyed by 4 of the scruffiest looking specimens I have ever had the mis-pleasure to meet. They tried to disrupt my session by throwing stones in the swim and shouting some sort of stupid protest.
Let them get on with it for 5 minutes, then saw them off with my trustie catty and the odd 1/4 oz ardsley bomb...
I think they wanted the water to get a bath in...............(dirty B******s)

Be careful out there lads....

 

[willywetegg]

Be careful how you deter these people they will get you on video and use it in court. The sad thing about it is it doesn\"t seem to matter what they do to you. Rise above it, walk away but take photographs of them. Remember their faces.

Jim.

 

[jethro18]

Probably right Jim, but you know what its like mate...seeing red etc.....But I\'ll take youre advice mate next time.....

Jethro

 

[willywetegg]

There have been lots of times when I should have walked away. Some times you can\"t walk away I know. The last time that happened to me I really wished I had. Luckily for me it all worked out ok.

Jim.

 

[sage]

while trawling old posts about various things i came across this subject....
well the so called "Fox Hunting Ban " ban hasnt affected fishing at all... in fact it hasnt really affected "hunting with dogs" as the act was called i think ....

although as predicted by some people the fox numbers would increase and become a bit of a problem.... not in the way people thought tho... you dont expect the problem being foxes savaging babies and attacking people!!!!

hunting still takes place in a slightly different format.....although dogs are still used ...they now drive foxes to guns to be shot.... that is.... all foxes shot... young , old, healthy and infirm.... the gun takes no prisoners!!!!

previously the majority of pack caught only the naive, injured, infirm foxes which were causing problems to livestock, fowl etc... fit healthy foxes escaped and went to ground... even then sometimes they were dug to and despatched with a licenced handgun ...at the landowners request..

before the ban i also can also say that i have witnessed a pack of hounds kill a fox... it was very quick .. well to say a pack is wrong really.. the leading hound caught it and shook it ... it was dead before another dog got anywhere near it... after killing it ...it just stood over it ...
strange i thought but then it was dismembered by the rest of the hounds...when they caught up... so was it cruel what i saw !!!! no i dont think so... it was killed instantly... but it was a bit disturbing to see a pack pull a dead fox to bits.... even tho i couldnt see that happen in the middle of the pack actually .. it was my imagination that gave me a vivid disturbing picture!!!

i think the main people who have been affected by the "hunting ban" are the lurcher and coursing lads the "poachers".. not the so called posh "hunting set"

the lads who ran one dog against a hare... be it gamboling or pest control... they get the big fines, dogs and even cars confiscated, and driving bans....
but now even they can do it legally where they have permission to be on the land... they shoot the hare and use the dog to retrieve the wounded animal.. as allowed within the terms of the "Law"
imagine the following scenario...a hare is shot at, the shooter thinks its been hit .. a swift running dog is released to retrieve the "wounded hare"... totally legal....
so if you think logically about the "Hunting Ban" which the labour goverment brought in... its been virtually complete waste of time.... and more so money..

the people who were hunting with dogs illegally before the ban are still doing it illegally after the ban .... so no change there !!!
and the people who were legally hunting with dogs before the ban can still hunt legally with dogs after the ban!!!! so no change there either!!!

now is that mad or what..... maybe even mad dogs and englishmen reversed... dogs and mad englishmen ( politicians)

just something to think about
cheers
Paul

 

[Red5]

while trawling old posts about various things i came across this subject....
well the so called "Fox Hunting Ban " ban hasnt affected fishing at all... in fact it hasnt really affected "hunting with dogs" as the act was called i think ....

although as predicted by some people the fox numbers would increase and become a bit of a problem.... not in the way people thought tho... you dont expect the problem being foxes savaging babies and attacking people!!!!

hunting still takes place in a slightly different format.....although dogs are still used ...they now drive foxes to guns to be shot.... that is.... all foxes shot... young , old, healthy and infirm.... the gun takes no prisoners!!!!

previously the majority of pack caught only the naive, injured, infirm foxes which were causing problems to livestock, fowl etc... fit healthy foxes escaped and went to ground... even then sometimes they were dug to and despatched with a licenced handgun ...at the landowners request..

before the ban i also can also say that i have witnessed a pack of hounds kill a fox... it was very quick .. well to say a pack is wrong really.. the leading hound caught it and shook it ... it was dead before another dog got anywhere near it... after killing it ...it just stood over it ...
strange i thought but then it was dismembered by the rest of the hounds...when they caught up... so was it cruel what i saw !!!! no i dont think so... it was killed instantly... but it was a bit disturbing to see a pack pull a dead fox to bits.... even tho i couldnt see that happen in the middle of the pack actually .. it was my imagination that gave me a vivid disturbing picture!!!

i think the main people who have been affected by the "hunting ban" are the lurcher and coursing lads the "poachers".. not the so called posh "hunting set"

the lads who ran one dog against a hare... be it gamboling or pest control... they get the big fines, dogs and even cars confiscated, and driving bans....
but now even they can do it legally where they have permission to be on the land... they shoot the hare and use the dog to retrieve the wounded animal.. as allowed within the terms of the "Law"
imagine the following scenario...a hare is shot at, the shooter thinks its been hit .. a swift running dog is released to retrieve the "wounded hare"... totally legal....
so if you think logically about the "Hunting Ban" which the labour goverment brought in... its been virtually complete waste of time.... and more so money..

the people who were hunting with dogs illegally before the ban are still doing it illegally after the ban .... so no change there !!!
and the people who were legally hunting with dogs before the ban can still hunt legally with dogs after the ban!!!! so no change there either!!!

now is that mad or what..... maybe even mad dogs and englishmen reversed... dogs and mad englishmen ( politicians)

just something to think about
cheers
Paul

Being as it isn't policed I have been informed off people within the hunting group that foxes aren't chased to ground and shot but are still killed by the hounds.
Regarding Hares, on the plus side, this animal was becoming a bit of a rarity due to poaching etc, but am glad to see that it seems to have recovered remarkably well where I live, as in the past I may only have seen one or two a year, whereas now they are once again a common site and could easily have seen dozens this year!