Cheers for the comments lads. As for rod types for different ground types I tend to use whatever rod I've got for any type of fishing maybe wrong but I'm not a particularly experienced fisherman but want a good rod. I've had my Apollo m2 since they came out more or less and it's spot on but in a strong wind the tip bounces about too much for my liking. I like the new century range more for the aesthetics really. My two mates have them one has the c curve and the other has the TT I've tried both rods and I noticed on each occasion I could cast a lot further with Both. When people say the TT is too stiff what Is meant by this? As I didn't have any issues when casting a lead out. Also why would it not be suitable for say off a beach with a sand bottom?