Sapphire uptiding monday 20th

I am a boat owner and fish from Sunderland, Germany and Cape Town

I also fished on board Peter`s Sapphire and other Charter Boats from Hartlepool, Whitby and Tyne.

I also live at the seafront and observe and know the sea very well. Monday was totally windstill and the only "abnormality" was a rolling swell of about 5-6ft.

I was more than once out in Cape Town on a 27ft boat in swell double of that. Peter has a 33ft boat. A swell of 5-6 ft can never ever, not even theoretically flip his boat.

If I didn`t work on Monday, I would have gone fishing on my 18 footer boat.

May I just repeat what I said earlier: Here we have a skipper, who managed to bring a party of anglers out and onto the fish on difficult (not dangerous!) conditions. He caught and brought them all back safe.

I am pretty sure that all anglers had eyes and saw the swell. Each of them could have said that they had no sealegs and I am sure Peter would not have charged them (I speak from experience, Peter did not charge a friend of mine who cancelled short notice).

I have seen anglers on Charters hungover, inappropriately dressed etc..

Blame the skipper for whatever you like, but not for seasickness. Its ludicrous.

I am sure, if any of the en-vogue skippers of Hartlepool or Whitby have gone out and caught good cod, there would be a huge thread of "Well done mate" posts here.
 
The swells where double that hence why the whole pier was awash every other charter boat cancled there trips out what does that tell u because i know what it tells me DANGEROUS conditions not even a ship 100ft will enter out into it which ever way u look at it you endangered 15 anglers lifes and them of the rnli
 
perhaps we need to hear from those that were on board rather than condemnation from folks that weren't. what the sea looks like hitting the pier can be a world apart from what it's actually like half a mile offshore. A big ship will lie offshore in a swell for a vastly different number of reasons that a small boat. Swell shoving 2000 tons of ship in one direction is not something that is quickly corrected

there's a risk putting to sea in any conditions, if an experienced skippers reads the conditions as safe, you put your trust in their judgement, seems a lot of skippers get damned if they do, and damned if they don't and call it off
 
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Well said Mark. It seems Peter gets quite a bit of stick from some on here, no idea why? I have been out with him twice, seems a good Skipper.................talks a lot out on the water mind! :)
 
mark said:
perhaps we need to hear from those that were on board rather than condemnation from folks that weren't. what the sea looks like hitting the pier can be a world apart from what it's actually like half a mile offshore. A big ship will lie offshore in a swell for a vastly different number of reasons that a small boat. Swell shoving 2000 tons of ship in one direction is not something that is quickly corrected

there's a risk putting to sea in any conditions, if an experienced skippers reads the conditions as safe, you put your trust in their judgement, seems a lot of skippers get damned if they do, and damned if they don't and call it off
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not quickly corrected going in to seaham for sure, not much to aim at opposed to sunderland and sheilds and even then ships have had to stand off waiting for better conditions at times, did'nt look very pleasant from what i saw on web cams but a 30ft boat can steam all day in big swells as long as they ar'nt breaking, fair to say that a strong stomach is needed for angling though.
 
This type of fishings normal down newquay and the boats arnt as big as sapphire i dont believe the skipper would endanger life tbh at the end of the day its his business and hes not going to ruin his reputation for the sake of a few quid and as said the anglers didnt have to board his vessel .hats of to the life boat crew last night as they were out last night off shields pier on a exersize a think and the sea was massive
 
Is everyone wearin blinkers or summit did u see the water on sat or Monday it was massive hence why no other boats went out on these days is it true that somebody nearly went overboard on sat as have heard from a canny few reliable people this is true one day something is going to happen possibly causing lots of missery to people its just not on
 
To set the record straight.

I was out with Peter on Monday, yes there were big swells as we crossed the bar but at no point did anyone on board feel threatened or ask to return.We headed out east and as the sea settled turned north and anchored off Souter Lighthouse,the boat easily handled the rolling swell and no way was it uncomfortable.Peter's deck hand Mick has got to be one of the most professional I have ever fished with, nothing was a bother to him he was on hand at all times to help with snags and net fish. All four of us had an enjoyable day.One lad was sea sick half way through the session but he had been up all night with his ill grandad.The fishing and craic was spot on. Would I go out with Peter again, yes no problem.
 
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Is everyone wearin blinkers or summit did u see the water on sat or Monday it was massive hence why no other boats went out on these days is it true that somebody nearly went overboard on sat as have heard from a canny few reliable people this is true one day something is going to happen possibly causing lots of missery to people its just not on
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I believe you have repeated this now often enough. You base your judgement on hearsay, container ships and waves on the pier. Try listening to skippers, boat owners and anglers on board of Sapphire instead.

Reserve criticism of a skipper for when its justified. Here its not. End of this nonsense now!
 
Listen mate i have owned boats for over 10 year and i know when conditions are not safe i will say it again NO OTHER CHARTER BOATS Even attempted going out some of these charter skippers have over 30yrs experience what does that tell you
It not hearsay either i saw the water and have seen lads coments who where on boat
 
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Here is some more here say for you

been out on th sapphire wave crashing over boat 6 out of 10 sea sick in 20mins had to turn around nd come bk in

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not siding with no one . i get seasick fishing off the beach . my nephew however was one of the lads who fished on monday and had a mint time according to him . his hartlepool boat cancelled a few times on him i informed him on saturday that sapphire operates out of sunderland . i also told him seas might be rough . i found out on monday he had mint time . unlike me who blanked down the beach . no one admits being seasick tho . :)
 
Yer got it back on Friday evening but not had a chance to do anything with it yet due to the weather and work and dont expect to get anything done for a week or so.
 
Thats good then it wont be long till your blasting out the pier to christen her with a double has the boat got a name or is it stingray 2
 
Forgot to mention. We dropped anchor just north of a small private boat that was fishing. He was there for a couple of hours but only had one fish and returned to Sunderland on a dying sea.
 

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