sless
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No good for the 16 and 17ft rods Harry.
A mate was using them on a 17ft rod with braid next to me last year,he kept wondering why he was cracking off when casting.
Turned out the heavier part of the leader did,nt reach the reel.
the tapered shock leaders i use are 15 m long
on a 13' rod and theres plenty on the reel