Tribute to Mandela
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EFC FOREVER
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So that made what he did ok ??? If that is all he wanted peace and equal rights for whites and blacks why untill his dying day never apolagise for the murders that were commited under his rule while head of the mk why untill 2008 was he still under survalance under terrorism act and why even to this day whites are been chased out of there homes and off there land ??? he received support from gadaffi and when he visited he was given the highest welcome possible...... 21 gun salute ect. He recived over 10 million dollars off gadaffi when running for president in support of what he was doing .....but its ok because the country was on brink ov civil war .... I think we had better agree to disagree on this matter that man commited acts of terror on innocent people end of. He got offered peace and he refused it. He held no remorse for his actions and yet still people try to justify what he did.
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EFC FOREVER
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And what would I be gaining by lying mandella supported most communist leaders u look just google mandella gadaffi links he is openly supported him I aint a lier.
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EFC FOREVER
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My name is perry franklin and I live in whitby north Yorkshire
How in anyway could you class me as a raceist....... im far from it m8 just because I see nelson mandella for what he really was a communist surporting murderer. im a racist ??. If its to do with my whites are getting chased off there land in south africa ...... that isnt a racist comment m8 thats a fact.
How in anyway could you class me as a raceist....... im far from it m8 just because I see nelson mandella for what he really was a communist surporting murderer. im a racist ??. If its to do with my whites are getting chased off there land in south africa ...... that isnt a racist comment m8 thats a fact.
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EFC FOREVER
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It isnt twisted from the truth bud...... he was a communist supporting terroist if je wasnt he wouldnt of supported the people he supported he wrote a book....... how 2 be a good communist how can a man of peace anti - surpression write a book like that ???
EFC FOREVER
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Davey pm sent
EFC FOREVER
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Whatever m8 like I said everyone's entitled to there views and I respect that only thing I have took offence with has been daveys comments on me been a raceist when nothing could be further from the truth. Twice he has either accused or asked people about racism on this thread when all I have done is put my views across in as diplomatic as I can ...... still as I said would be a boring place if everyone was the same.
Winton
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I wouldnt of called you a raceist nothing u said is raceist so just let him have his opinion all ot was to me was a debate on mandingo
pm received,
a have "white" friend's living in south Africa,
there's nowt a wouldn't say on here that a wouldn't say to your face either.
and a don't need 2 hide behind made up name's or private message's.
a never hide......!
EFC FOREVER
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Aye alright pal I only sent you a private message because I didnt want you thinking that I was a racist when I aint nothing could be further from the truth I respect ya views even thou they aint the same I didnt appreciate ya comment like but no harm done.
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kayos
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I think it is a very thin line between a freedom fighter and a terrorist. Mandela was definitely involved to some extent in bombings, murder etc. However it was done in his own country with the goal of taking back control of their country which had been stolen from them by mainly the British and Dutch.
When South Africa was created by a British Act of Union in the early 1900's it provided that indigenous people could only own 7% of land. Remember this was their own country yet they had 93% of land denied to them and taken by Europeans, hence all those farms. To fight against such oppression is a freedom fighter for me, who may use heinous crimes to achieve a goal, in this case, of retrieving their country that absolutely belonged to them.
Where I think it becomes terrorism is for instance 9/11. That was dressed up as a cause by Bin Laden, but in reality it had no real goal other than creating terror. Nineteen of the bombers were Saudi Arabian, so what exactly was their cause?
Of course it seems that the people who died in SA were innocent civilians at times, but if they are a product of a group of people who took over the country by force all those years ago and determined to keep hold of it, can they be truly classed as innocent?
ok, we both have different view's on an old man dying.
if you were stood in front of me a would still tell you the same.
then when we were done and dusted, shake your hand.
that's what bloke's do.
so are you of the same opinion with northen Ireland and the ira and the likes? that theyre freedom fighters and not terrorists? because the situations are very similar if you ask me. are the innocent people who have been killed or maimed in bomb attacks in recent years not so innocent and rarther guilty through association because of what their ancesters may have done over 500 years ago? seems a bit unfair if that is the case. not looking for an argument mate, just a debate, although im not very good at either.
kayos
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so are you of the same opinion with northen Ireland and the ira and the likes? that theyre freedom fighters and not terrorists? because the situations are very similar if you ask me. are the innocent people who have been killed or maimed in bomb attacks in recent years not so innocent and rarther guilty through association because of what their ancesters may have done over 500 years ago? seems a bit unfair if that is the case. not looking for an argument mate, just a debate, although im not very good at either.
Well I don't want to get into that argument on here mate. I would say though that Northern Ireland was annexed in 1921 I think, less than 100 years ago, not 500!
