two big uns tied off!

[Penn525]

YES!!! well done....NFSA England..... S Q U A D......!!!
Now we've established you can read - what is your point? And if you don't have a point, then I suggest this thread comes to an end....
Next time you decide to do some checkin' on me, then I suggest you talk to people or person who know what they're talking about and have all the facts...Failing that, why not contact David Rowe (I'm sure you'll know who he is?) or John Amery even? If you need Tel. No.s, then just PM me, and I'll be glad to help you out...Bored with this thread - and after all that, and several pages to this thread - it was still a waste of a good fish!

And thats My opinion, which I'm entitled to. And if you can't take some critisism, then that is your problem not mine. You were the one in fact who had a go at people by questioning their angling ability...

 

[Penn525]

Must admit that through all my time with NESA, plus the previous NESA, there was never any one upmanship. about "talent"

This thread was all well and good, until someone started accusing people of knowing nowt - because they had an opinion, I was simply trying to make a statement that in fact I do know quite a bit, and you don't get to compete at a high level by knowing nowt!

 

[sless]

you blew a canny trumpet for your self while you did it though

so it hasnt been a waste of time for you

 

[KeithB]

"John Amery even?"

Is that Dick's brother?

 

[STEVO]

Crackin angler keith seen him round the middle toillets many a night
I have found the thread quite amusing maybe its just my small mind paul 525 well done on the england squad mate, terry unlucky bout the fish still can't see how its the waste of a fish if you expect to retreive it ...maybe its my lack of experience and tony ...your mama

 

[willywetegg]

and me, just bemused about how people can carry on like this. I have been out fishing a couple of times over the last week and had people taking the p*ss about this thread, they will be loving it tonight.

How so called "Great" anglers can go on like this is beyond me. Never mind lads enjoy, I am sure you are making a great name for yourselves lmao. Be proud.

Sorry about the Keegan moment.

Jim.

 

[Penn525]

and me, just bemused about how people can carry on like this. I have been out fishing a couple of times over the last week and had people taking the p*ss about this thread, they will be loving it tonight.

How so called "Great" anglers can go on like this is beyond me. Never mind lads enjoy, I am sure you are making a great name for yourselves lmao. Be proud.

Sorry about the Keegan moment.

Jim.

Jim...people I talk and fish with, take the p*ss out of this forum all the time!
But hey, it's not so bad! Most of the stuff is ok.......think I'll just log out and look in as a guest from now on!!!!!!!!!!

 

[STEVO]

Absolutely gutted mate... you were the one person that gave this site credibility !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Davyred]

Jim...people I talk and fish with, take the p*ss out of this forum all the time!
But hey, it's not so bad! Most of the stuff is ok.......think I'll just log out and look in as a guest from now on!!!!!!!!!!

And the point of telling us that is?

I can't believe how a thread that started with Terry telling us how he'd had to tie a fantastic fish up because he couldn't lift it has turned into a 'I've done this , aren't I great thread'.

Paul, you really want to have a word with yourself. You are a good angler by the sounds of it, but do you really have to go ramming it down peoples throats what you've done in your angling career, just to justify your argument?

You sday it was a waste of a fish. I can GUARANTEE that during your match angling career that you have caught fish, killed them, weighed them in, and left them there. Is that not a waste? I'm not knocking it, because I've done it countless times. All I'm saying is people in glass houses and all that.

Can we please get this thread locked or something, because I'm sure it wasn't titled 'my dad's bigger than your dad'

 

[JamesC]

Great Point Davy but come on mate, don't lock the thread, I regrettably p#ss myself every time I read on!

I think some people are forgetting that Terry lost a belta fish the other night due to a none action of his own..... I may be mistaken but thinking on, did that event actually started this thread?

Anyway, Terry, I hope your getting at least some enjoyment from all this nonsense and it helps to raise a smile or two,

A laugh a minute guaranteed,

Cheers
JamesC

 

[Penn525]

mindless words said by anglers who probably dont even no as much as i have forgotten!

Wise words indeed Davy - but, how do you react to the quote above?
If thats not a I'm better than you and you're crap and know nowt, then I don't know what is......
But, just ignore YoursTruly's remarks and all jump on my back - I can take it, because I know that there will always be two sides to every story....
- I think all arguments have been covered (but I'm sure I'll have p*ssed someone else off about something!!!!!!!!!)

 

[cod catcher]

paul i have been reading this as a guest and find it funny. Yes terry got a nice fish. But instead of having a go at terry for getting that fish why dont you go down the rat house and glass center and tell all the people down there who is keeping undersize fish that you fished for england and see wot happens.

 

[foss]

You haven't p****d me off PENN525 this for me is 2 headstrong anglers with different views, what's wrong with that? Forums are for debate and this has been a good one. As for blowing your own trumpet, isn't that what any sport ,including angling, is all about. Competition/trophys/how big it was/the one that got away. Ever noticed what some lads have on the bottom of their posts : *** club winner/*** open winner etc. They are proud of what they have achieved.and there,s nowt wrong in that

Keep up the good work.

 

[Penn525]

paul i have been reading this as a guest and find it funny. Yes terry got a nice fish. But instead of having a go at terry for getting that fish why dont you go down the rat house and glass center and tell all the people down there who is keeping undersize fish that you fished for england and see wot happens.

......Why...???????

 

[Davyred]

You haven't p****d me off PENN525 this for me is 2 headstrong anglers with different views, what's wrong with that? Forums are for debate and this has been a good one. As for blowing your own trumpet, isn't that what any sport ,including angling, is all about. Competition/trophys/how big it was/the one that got away. Ever noticed what some lads have on the bottom of their posts : *** club winner/*** open winner etc. They are proud of what they have achieved.and there,s nowt wrong in that

Keep up the good work.

 

[Penn525]

You haven't p****d me off PENN525 this for me is 2 headstrong anglers with different views, what's wrong with that? Forums are for debate and this has been a good one. As for blowing your own trumpet, isn't that what any sport ,including angling, is all about. Competition/trophys/how big it was/the one that got away. Ever noticed what some lads have on the bottom of their posts : *** club winner/*** open winner etc. They are proud of what they have achieved.and there,s nowt wrong in that

Keep up the good work.

Hooray...someone with common sense... ....
As for debate, thats actually quite laughable on this forum mate!
If you happen to mention anything on here that they don't agree with, then they gang up on you like a pack of wolves! I've learned that points of view are welcomed on this forum - as long as it's agreeable to everyone else!
How anyone can accuse someone of being mindless, and knowing less than they have forgotten? That quote seems to have been lost in all of this!
The point that was being made, was that the area in question was dubious, as hooking and landing a very big fish was indeed very doubtful! Ok, so the fish was tied off! Not exactly on par with playing a double on the beach and enjoying every bit of the fight. Just bullied in to the bottom of the cliff, can't lift it, tie it off! I decided to phone a well known north eastern angler today to ask him his views on this subject, as I think some of the critisism aimed towards me is unfair. He has in fact fished this very venue, and lost two very big fish from here, and he told me he wouldn't ever fish there again, as it was pointless, it does hold big fish, but you can't get them up! His words not mine!

YoursTruly, I wasn't having a go at you - but you took to the offensive at me immediately, because my point of view was different to yours. It was a fantastic fish, a fish of a lifetime in fact, but I don't want to sound patronising towards you, but all I said was what was the point of fishing there if you can't lift the fish? It obviously holds very big fish, I've seen the ground you're fishing into. It would be interesting to know what you're biggest fish (landed of course) is from there?

Just accept that a debate will always have two sides, the fors and the againsts. I was the latter, and becoming personal towards someone's angling ability was wrong.

 

[Davyred]

Hooray...someone with common sense... ....
As for debate, thats actually quite laughable on this forum mate!
If you happen to mention anything on here that they don't agree with, then they gang up on you like a pack of wolves! I've learned that points of view are welcomed on this forum - as long as it's agreeable to everyone else!
How anyone can accuse someone of being mindless, and knowing less than they have forgotten? That quote seems to have been lost in all of this!

Paul, if you look back, Terry never said that. He said...

'few mindless words said by anglers who probably dont even no as much as i have forgotten!'

Considering the bloke was gutted about what happened, I think your first post wasn't exactly diplomatic....

"Of course it's a waste of time...you've just proved it... I chucked it back for the rats... - seems like a waste of a very big fish to me."

"I decided to phone a well known north eastern angler today to ask him his views on this subject, as I think some of the critisism aimed towards me is unfair. He has in fact fished this very venue, and lost two very big fish from here, and he told me he wouldn't ever fish there again, as it was pointless, it does hold big fish, but you can't get them up! His words not mine!"

So does this mean that no-one should fish from there? Your well known north east angler obviously fished it a lot to lose 2 very big fish. Did you have a go at him for going back after he'd lost the first?

A good few years back, I was fishing the South pier (when you legally could). There was a good northerly sea running along the length of the pier and the fishing was good. Anyway, I hit into a cod that, when I got it to the side, looked 15lb+. I couldn't take it round the washend as the swell was coming over. Theres no steps on the outside of the pier, so I had one choice - to handball it. I got it maybe 6ft clear of the water, and then the quick release parted. I was gutted as the fish was gut hooked, so I knew I had a good chance of getting it up. But what I was more gutted about was the fact that the fish WAS gut hooked, and I'd just lifted it 6ft by that hookhold - it can't have done the fish any good. If I were a betting man, I'd say the fish never survived.

Now would you class that as a waste of a fish? Was I in the wrong for fishing there because I had next to no chance of getting a big fish up onto the top of the pier?

Everyone fishes where they like to fish. You like the Ryhope beaches, I like the Sunderland piers, and Terry likes his cliff marks. What ever fate brings us fishing wise, no-one ever should be told that where they fish is a waste of time, becauseto that person, they're doing what they love doing - they're fishing.

 

[Penn525]

. Did you have a go at him for going back after he'd lost the first?

They were in the same session apparently....

 

[Penn525]

Everyone fishes where they like to fish. You like the Ryhope beaches, I like the Sunderland piers, and Terry likes his cliff marks. What ever fate brings us fishing wise, no-one ever should be told that where they fish is a waste of time, becauseto that person, they're doing what they love doing - they're fishing.

Davy, once again, wise words, and I couldn't agree more....

 

[Penn525]

proof that I do in fact fish cliffs by the way....