5150 is the drunken knight still falling off his horse. I know what you maen when your own talk to other kids about what they have been doing and they get funny looks. It is amazing when we are on the beach, how many people come down with kids and it is there first time there and they only live a few miles away. Another thing i do with the grandbairns and id di with own kids is if i am doing anything from overhauling an outboatrd to renovating a bit of furniture i let my lot help. Never told them to go away. It is great watching my three year old grandson using a hand drill to drill holes in a sheet of hardboard to re back a chest of draws, he is really good. And all my kids could handle my boat when ythey where ten. The looks my daughter got when balsting round Luce Bay at ten.
Batt22 you had a lucky escape in the jungle mind, bet you have never been on a golf course since, welcome to the board much safer this fishing lark