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A while back I asked for some help on dating the removal of the old concrete sewer pipes that ran down Tynemouth Sands at the Bottom of the Stairs and at Sharpness. Dave Hayley finally dated their removal to the early 1990's.

We know that since then the shape of the beach has changed dramatically and it got me wondering what the shape was like BEFORE the pipes were put in. Neither me or Alan Charlton can find any reference to their installation on the web and I was wondering if anyone can help us out.

My guess would be around the turn of the century but it's only a stab in the dark. Any ideas?
 
Could you not ask the water board or council or some sort of sensus giving any details? ?

Have spent some time looking on the Environmental Agency and Planning websites but no joy. I suspect it was before their tenure but it'll be out there somewhere. Last search cost me a puntatillion pounds in phone bills lol.
 
I managed to find a few images on the net - unfortunately I couldn't find any that showed the north end, but you can certainly see how the south end has been used / developed / neglected over the years…Not sure it's exactly what you were looking for, but hopefully of some interest…













Gary :)
 
Hi Topcast,

Not really as the pipes were at the northern end of the beach and the skeers on the photo are of the Bathing Pool Corner. Nice photo though.

Sorry it's no use does the link not take you anywhere? Have you looked in Newcastle library
 
Sorry it's no use does the link not take you anywhere? Have you looked in Newcastle library

Hi Topcast,

No luck with the link. I'm sure that the Library might be a good idea. As I'm 200 miles away if anyone fancies an afternoon with their head in a good book you'd have my undying support.

Nice photos Gary, I think I can see the pipes on the first photo......just next to Wally haha....it's amazing how many people used to get on the beach. Most of the photos are of the south end of the beach, more going on I think.
 
that's the pipe that used to run the full length of slaty gut out past south crab hill. there was another pipe to the left of the bottom of those stairs, both cracking marks even in daylight. davy.
 

That's the one. As you can see the pipe, that is 4 feet high, is nearly covered but I can't remember it ever being totally covered, so the sand never spread further than the pipe. Now that it's gone, in 25 years, the sand from Tynemouth has reached the Harbour. AC reckons the pipes weren't there in 1940 which surprises me. Any more help will be appreciated.
 
That's the one. As you can see the pipe, that is 4 feet high, is nearly covered but I can't remember it ever being totally covered, so the sand never spread further than the pipe. Now that it's gone, in 25 years, the sand from Tynemouth has reached the Harbour. AC reckons the pipes weren't there in 1940 which surprises me. Any more help will be appreciated.

a photograph shows it wasn't there in 1940
 
a photograph shows it wasn't there in 1940

Blows my turn of the century theory out of the water. It also means that all the sewage that Cullercoats and Tynemouth generated until at least 1940 didn't end up on the beach but must have gone somewhere, perhaps straight into the river. If it was later than 1940 someone on here must know.
 
David, the clean up of the Tyne was started in the late sixties/early seventies. This was when the Tyneside interceptor sewer system was constructed. I would hazard a guess that this may have coincided with the construction of the sea outfalls, although they could have been constructed earlier by the Tynemouth Corporation Water Company prior to Northumbrian Waters existance. I work for Northumbrian Water so will check and see if we still have any archived records of the construction.
 
David, the clean up of the Tyne was started in the late sixties/early seventies. This was when the Tyneside interceptor sewer system was constructed. I would hazard a guess that this may have coincided with the construction of the sea outfalls, although they could have been constructed earlier by the Tynemouth Corporation Water Company prior to Northumbrian Waters existance. I work for Northumbrian Water so will check and see if we still have any archived records of the construction.

thats great John
 
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