well phone Virgin today, I asked for a member of the retention team, he said I will see what I can do first, went on about the £6 I paid for my phone calls, not interested in that mate its the £40 difference for the same services with BT, hang on will put you through to the customer services people Hi mate how you doing he says, me says alrite but I am on about the bill I get from you and the difference between BT and Virgin, obviously training says be nice and swarmy to the customer, no good with me mate what you going to do about it, hang on I will have a look, he started checking BT site, don't know what he did but it asked him for id password etc. No they don't do SKY 1 & 2 for £21, o yes they do I says, do you get unlimited calls yes plus international calls. I will see what I can do, brought the bill downb to about£80, no thanks says I, will be in touch when BT is up and running. Went to BT got the services TV progs etc that I want not what comes in big bundles that you have to pay for and you don't watch, bill going to be about £50, might go up a few quid over the 18months contract but nowt like virgin. We shall wait and see.