the witch is dead

big_sean said:
I 100% agree with that but she didnt deserve the stuff people have said of here, she stood up to men who would of seen this country go bust she made this country great again

whether everything she did was right or wrong she deserves better than the name calling she has had, i worked in the shipyards, and seen the orders disapear overseas and then i went overseas to build them, abroad the difference was in europe you had to work as if you didnt you were bagged in this country you didnt have to work as the union kept your job and to be honest i did well in europe. why is the new manurfacturing doing so well and so are the workers, again its so easy to see its not run by unions.

I am out of here now as this thread has run its course but on a final note we had a survey the other day at work asking if you agreed with her the ones who said yes are getting wednesday off with pay the others are having to work thier faces has been a picture and as the bosses say you didnt agree so you dont need to say farewell ha ha ha


Sean
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She destroyed the country and its legacy still lives on , in the shape of cameron , osbourne and the rest of the so calleD thatchers children , personally i call the SCUM
 
Everyone has a take on this, mine is she was a horrible woman, only out for what she
believed in ( and that was wrong ). A bit of common sense would of done her well,
She caused a huge split when she was in office, and caused an other on her death.
Im glad she has gone, as im sure many others will be.
 
The Great Wallsendo said:
Cowardly? why? because I have an open opinion that dares to run contrary to yours? get real...you have sent threats both to myself and other members before now because we have questioned your one sided views openly.

You may be the big man down your way Tony aka Mr TT but I am certainly not intimidated by you.:

wallsendy i think you are a total disgrace to the fishing community for slandering or should i say grassing a fellow angler on an open forum,
cod magnet is a well liked bloke and allround good angler and caster, he goes out of his way to show young lads and beginners how to cast properly and gives his time to them for free, im lost for words as to why you could stoop this low..it beggars belief
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I call these "Six and two three's" threads, whether it is Labour v Conservative,
Newcastle v Sunderland, North v South it is always going to be stalemate and they drag on and on.......:rolleyes:
They are OK for a couple of pages until the insults start to fly, why cant everyone express their point and then leave it....:)

Anyone caught any fish lately...:D
 
I think we could turn this thread into a North v South comp as seems to be a split here.

As for the original i was not born so my comments not worth posting
 
big_sean said:
Just so the less informed can understand out tax system, make sure you dont let labout tax the wealthy too much as read this and see what can happen

Suppose that once a month, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all of them comes to £100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes and claim State benefits, it would go something like this;

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay £1.
The sixth would pay £3.
The seventh would pay £7.
The eighth would pay £12.
The ninth would pay £18.
And the tenth man (the richest) would pay £59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every month and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until, one day, the owner caused them a little problem. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your weekly beer by £20." Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free but what about the other six men; the paying customers? How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realised that £20 divided by six is £3.33 but if they subtracted that from everybody's share then not only would the first four men still be drinking for free but the fifth and sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

So the bar owner suggested a different system. The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing.
The sixth man paid £2 instead of £3 .
The seventh paid £5 instead of £7.
The eighth paid £9 instead of £12.
The ninth paid £14 instead of £18.
And the tenth man now paid £49 instead of £59. 
Each of the last six was better off than before with the first four continuing to drink for free.

But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got £1 out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got £10!"

"Yes, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a £1 too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"

"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I only got £2? The rich get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"

So, the nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. Funnily enough, the next month the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him.

But when it came to pay for their drinks, they discovered something important – they didn't have enough money between all of them to pay for even half the bill.

That's how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes do tend to get the most benefit from tax reliefs and reductions. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy and they just might not show up anymore. Just like when Mrs T reduced the tax on the rich they came home and the country benefited, when Labour upped it again it cost the uk 200 million in lost revenue when they disapeared again!!!!!!!!!!!!

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible[/QU

Scrubbed my reply, I too am bored with this!
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The Jester said:
I call these "Six and two three's" threads, whether it is Labour v Conservative,
Newcastle v Sunderland, North v South it is always going to be stalemate and they drag on and on.......:rolleyes:
They are OK for a couple of pages until the insults start to fly, why cant everyone express their point and then leave it....:)

Anyone caught any fish lately...:D
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Bo-lox on this thread newcastle and sunderland are agreeing with each other, i just come back
from surrey, and not many like thatcher.
So that leaves torry v labour, and we live in the real world so im anti torry all the way!!
If you dont like the thread, then dont read and comment on it. Simple
 
neil9629 said:
Bo-lox on this thread newcastle and sunderland are agreeing with each other, i just come back
from surrey, and not many like thatcher.
So that leaves torry v labour, and we live in the real world so im anti torry all the way!!
If you dont like the thread, then dont read and comment on it. Simple
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I'm an ex miner, my father was a miner and my grand father before him, i lost a years wages and hate her as much as you for the destruction she caused to the north east mining villages especially Easington where i lived for 50 years, and is called the most deprived place in the UK, so i've lived in the real world a long time !!!!!....but i said my peace at the beginning of this post, now its just boring......Thats me finished with this thread the more i read it the more it annoys me.......
 
chris,

I've read this thread from start to finish, but never commented on it..

leave it be mate....


most of them have no idea what they are talking about...and the rest aren't old enough to know...
 
Well,as far as i'm concerned,Mrs T closing Pickys buggered me,literally,
as i had to seek work as a rent boy,just to make ends meet,which they
often did while i was sorting two clients at the same time.
I also had to buy a fair amount of wimmens claithes and cosmetics,just
to take the masculine edge off,when somebody fancied a ladyboy.
I did make some serious money,the trade off being a ring like a jam
doughnut,but it got me through those difficult times.;)
 
Which one went on strike during the war then ?????

Whilst true men were fighting for thier country

Miners pay
In 1944 underground miners were earning £5 per day and their wage tribunal refused to raise piece rates. When the Government announced that the national average industrial manual wage had reached £6 10s, miners came out on unofficial strike in South Wales, Kent, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Durham, and Scotland - some 220,000 in South Wales and Yorkshire alone. With the invasion of France looming, the press attacked the miners.

A South Wales miner of 30 years standing commented “... The argument that a strike would let our soldiers down was countered by men who had brothers and sons in the forces who, so they claimed, had urged them to fight and maintain their customs or privileges. They argued that they must retain something for those absent ones to come back to, while the suggestion that we should wait for further negotiations was swamped by the reply that we had already waited a long while...”

In fact the Government was compelled to intervene, restored differentials, and the miners won the highest minimum wage in Britain. Their average earnings ranked 81st in 1938, but rose to 14th after the strikes.

Really nice men the miners.
 
neil9629 said:
So whats your take on things oh wise one ?
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my take on what Neil ?

the fact that a former PM has died?

i'd suggest that people do some reading before they make judgement

it's easy to jump onto a thread with the majority...

everyone has opinions, informed or not,

mine....i'll keep to myself
 
big_sean said:
Which one went on strike during the war then ?????

Whilst true men were fighting for thier country

Miners pay
In 1944 underground miners were earning £5 per day and their wage tribunal refused to raise piece rates. When the Government announced that the national average industrial manual wage had reached £6 10s, miners came out on unofficial strike in South Wales, Kent, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Durham, and Scotland - some 220,000 in South Wales and Yorkshire alone. With the invasion of France looming, the press attacked the miners.

A South Wales miner of 30 years standing commented “... The argument that a strike would let our soldiers down was countered by men who had brothers and sons in the forces who, so they claimed, had urged them to fight and maintain their customs or privileges. They argued that they must retain something for those absent ones to come back to, while the suggestion that we should wait for further negotiations was swamped by the reply that we had already waited a long while...”

In fact the Government was compelled to intervene, restored differentials, and the miners won the highest minimum wage in Britain. Their average earnings ranked 81st in 1938, but rose to 14th after the strikes.

Really nice men the miners.
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If this comment is directed at me Sean...my father was in the RAF during the 2nd world war..."the true men" comment was a low blow......whats your family working history then, since you like to stick the knife in mine..:question: Ah just read it....shipyards....when they closed, you abandoned the North East and went abroad....made your fortune and now live down South......After the quote "Really nice men the miners"........ i think 90% of people on here will have mining roots, so are you calling their relatives as well....
 
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